Rear Shocks


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Rear Shocks

Postby tulsadutch » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:02 pm



I have an 82 Goldwing Interstate and most everything is fine on this bike however the rear shocks sag when riding two up. I anyone tell me what shocks I should be looking for to replace them with and where I might find them? I haven't had much luck on ebay yet.

Thanks in advance



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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby littlebeaver » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:05 pm

I got the Progressive's series # 412 Two up and towing a trailer with no problem and I top out at 270...

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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby RoadRogue » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:17 pm

I rebuilt my stock air shocks using progressive suspension springs and Honda seals. Cost me less than $130 and they work like a charm.
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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:30 pm

I put a pair of Progressive 416's on my 82 and absolutely love them.

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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby bcassel » Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:27 am

+1 with Roadrogue. Just rebuild the shocks and put in Progressive Suspension springs. I got mine off Amazon for $50 for the springs, the seals and such cost me about the same from Honda dealer. Three hours in the shop (real mess cleaning up the shock oil from the tear down, follow the directions) and it has been great!

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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby littlebeaver » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:44 pm

To be honest, I just got lazy on this one...Usually I would rebuild something like this but, the 412's are not air shocks and I just like the thought of never having to check that pressure again, I had them on in a half hour or so...I was just plan LAZY no ifs ands or buts about it.....They are really good shocks...Rebuild them, or Not rebuild them, good advise in all directions here..

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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby tedmass » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:05 pm

Ther is a alternative. I put coil over shocks on my 82 I got at jcwhitneys had them on my 79 also .Love them Im a 250 LB guy and these are easy to adjust. My air shocks Bottomed out ,leaked oil and air slowly thay needed to be rebuilt and I'm not rich. Progressive are not cheep so I said go for a sure thing put the on :) adl and forget hope this helps
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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby Britanicus » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:07 pm

WingAdmin wrote:I put a pair of Progressive 416's on my 82 and absolutely love them.

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This ^^^

I love my 416's

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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby penntoy123 » Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:00 pm

I went with Road Rogue's advice(A big thanks) and rebuilt the airshocks using Progressive springs and put progressive in the forks. It sits higher and I don't need any air, but I don't bottom out any more.

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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby cafegoldwing_lover » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:18 am

i have a small question, can I lower my 83i by just removing air? or does the air suspensions only affect ride comfort?

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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby RoadRogue » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:38 am

The air will affect ride hieght to a degree,more so on old worn and sagged out springs, better to have good suspension and modify the seat to allow for shorter legs. Proper suspension eliminates the wallowing in the twisties and those big sweeping turns at speed. Progressive Suspension is the answer either rebuild kits or replacement units. you will love the ride.

http://www.progressivesuspension.com/
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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby cafegoldwing_lover » Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:59 pm

COOL thx ill look into it :P i definitely need new shocks !!

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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:34 pm

Putting the Progressive 416's on the back of my 1100 made a HUGE difference (positive) in handling.

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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby mk197523 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:54 am

I tried to rebuild my stock air shocks using progressive suspension springs and Honda seals and it cost me less than 130bucks and they work like a charm.

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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby NKYWinger » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:37 am

Looking at the Progressive catalog, I didn't see any applications for rear springs to fit the 1100's, esp air suspension - did my old eyes miss somethig? :?: :?:
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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:55 pm

NKYWinger wrote:Looking at the Progressive catalog, I didn't see any applications for rear springs to fit the 1100's, esp air suspension - did my old eyes miss somethig? :?: :?:


Do a search for part number 00-1170.

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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby NKYWinger » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:27 pm

:D Gracias!
Anyone out there changed to these springs on their air suspended bikes? If so, what didja think of them? I should prob'ly take mine apart this winter to change out the oil in them, given they are going on 30 years old and replace the seals while I'm in there (Yes, I know I'll make a big mess...LOL)

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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby NKYWinger » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:05 pm

duh, John.... Todd already TOLD he did this.................
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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby RoadRogue » Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:41 am

NKYWinger wrote:duh, John.... Todd already TOLD he did this.................




Awww gee John you beat me to it,also there are at least two others in this thread that did the same rebuild . :D just couldnt let it go ;)
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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby NKYWinger » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:27 am

Fair enought Todd......

didja also put in the Progressive fork springs? Any other suspension mods I oughta consider whilst I have the bike all apart? I put on Metzler ME 880's and have EBC brake pads - gonna send the rotors off to be drilled and add S/S brake lines......
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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby RoadRogue » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:29 pm

Progressive Suspension up front too, 20wt fork oil, SS braided brakelines ,sintered metal brake pads from http://www.dp-brakes.com/ (serious braking power even if they do wear the rotors a bit quicker),two sets of air horns and of course saftey chrome.Theres alot more I did but I will save that list for another day.
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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby N2PPN » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:13 am

Anyone have a Honda Part # for the seals for the rear stock shocks??


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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby timwingard » Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:08 am

With the assistance of several forums I rebuilt my 81 GL1100 rear shocks with the Progressive 1170 springs and Honda oil seal last weekend. This rebuild was not so straight forward as I had hoped and I ended up with a few questions and I can use some advice from those that have done this before.

First the Honda parts manual doesn't show all the parts. Once you remove the top of the shock, unscrew it, the shaft of the bolt that you unscrew it from appears to be part of a damper. I noticed in someone elses picture, that on the shaft of this "damper bolt" there was a rubber bushing or something. Mine had turned to a glob of gue. Does anyone know this part that is not in any parts diagram is? What it is for? Can I live without it? (Well right now I am living without it. I cleaned the gue off the shaft since it was doing nothing but disintegrating and fouling the ATF fluid)

Second issue is that the 1170 springs are not the same as the original springs. The original springs have an outer and inner spring of the same height, with a while plastic cap riding on the outer spring. The inner spring merrily slides in and out of the plastic cap an it compresses and decompresses. The progressive 1170s, and I rechecked that these are the ones I purchased, has a shorter fatter inner spring. It will not merrily slide in and out of the white cap, it is a litte too fat. And as I mentioned it is also an inch or so shorter that the original inner spring. Since the inner spring could not easily go in the white cap, I left the white cap off. It seems to work ok without it, but I am wondering if anyone noticed this same problem and if so what did they do?

After reinstalling the new springs and oil seal, I inflated to about 30 lbs of air pressure and I took a few short rides on the bike. The suspension seems firmer but the red suspension light in the tach seems to be coming on and staying on for long periods of time before going off. Then comes back on for a while then goes back off. What is this telling me?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby goldminerusa » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:00 am

This is an old thread!? I have a honda shock seal part # 91257-463-013 / $11.02 ea. from my local dealer online fiche. Or try www.cycle-parts.com

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Re: Rear Shocks

Postby timwingard » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:17 am

Thanks for your response. I replaced the seal that you forwarded me the info on, honda shock seal part # 91257-463-013. When you replace the springs you compress the shock and unscrew the top piece of the shock. There are several pieces that are in there that are not in the fiche diagram such as the springs for an example. One of those pieces is some sort of rubber piece that has disintegrated. I am asking if anyone knows anything about that particular piece. Thanks again.




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