Carb cleaning ??


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badwench
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Carb cleaning ??

Postby badwench » Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:47 am



1980 1100 interstate restore project..
Have ordered and received Randakk's rebuild kit. Have all carbs off and dissembled. I saw where Randakk's recommended you boil them in distilled water and not use any chemical type cleaner.
Was wondering if adding of soap or something to water would help and still not damage the carb? Also, what else would you use?

Thanks for any help
Jim



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RBGERSON
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Re: Carb cleaning ??

Postby RBGERSON » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:12 am

Some use simple green or other no toxic cleaners..
HAD LOTS OF GOLDWING 75-83
NOW INTO 1500'S..RIDING A 1998 SE

FAIR WINDS,
RB

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Re: Carb cleaning ??

Postby jrdbadger » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:44 pm

anybody tried using white vinegar to clean the carbs?

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Re: Carb cleaning ??

Postby MJSantos » Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:31 pm

Boil them in lemon juice diluted a little with distilled water.

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k2bertie
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Re: Carb cleaning ??

Postby k2bertie » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:51 am

Hi,
How long do you boil for, what do you look for in or on the water, some have sugested a pressure washer (water Pick?) after boiling, what sort as I only have a large houshold model. Do you go on to clean with carb clean? I have had them soaking in carb cleaner over night on the 2nd time off, third time stripped to bare bones, carb cleaner and air line, followed all air ways, pilot screws/jet cleaned new rebuild kits, set up as per manual, and it still wont tick over. Over 2,000 rpm it sounds and runs well as soon as it goes below it starts to cutout, I will have had my carbs off four times now, my bike had stood for 16 plus years so a thorough clean is needed any deep cleen tips would be truely appreciated. Or should I be looking to replace. I dont normally get stuck as being an engineer for the last 40 plus years I have allways been able to find a solution but this one is getting me stuck. HELP

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Re: Carb cleaning ??

Postby timwingard » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:49 am

After I rebuilt as set of 81s with Randakks's kit, when I cranked the motor it would immediately idle at about 4K rpm and never come down. Not the same problem you have. I boiled in distilled water, soaked in carb cleaner, and used lots and lots of brake cleaner but in the end decided that my idle jets must not be clear.

The idle jets on the 80-81 are pressed in where 82-83 model they screw out. They seem almost impossible to clean in place on the 80-81 models and a few people remove them with a number 1 screw extractor to clean and then press them back in. I tried it with a number 2 extractor and one came out and one broke the screw extractor and I stopped at that point. If you try this, I wouldn't recommend using the number 2.

I had a second set of 82 carbs which I rebuilt with Randakks's kit and they work fine after boiling and soaking in carb cleaner.
The initial boiling did remove some stuff, but I ended up soaking in Carb Cleaner anyway, but only did it for the max time allowed, no more. On the 82 I could actually verify the idle jets were clear and that opening is really small, small guitar string small. I know nwo that my 81 carbs idle jets were not clear even after I did the extensive cleaning, boiling and soaking.

LittleBeaver on this site removed and cleaned his idle jets and that seemed to correct his issue but if the removal doesn't go well you can ruin your carbs. Do a search on his postings if you are interested in trying that route.

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k2bertie
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Re: Carb cleaning ??

Postby k2bertie » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:59 am

Thanks, Not even gonna try removing jets sounds like trouble waiting to happen, I am taking carbs off today, I have the water boiler ready, a container of carb cleaner and some small dental brushes, I will consentrate on the pilot jets as this is such a common problem for the fault I have. I would like to know how long do you boil for, or is it just when you think they are clean. Wish me luck I will know some time tomorrow if it has worked forth time lucky I hope. :?

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Re: Carb cleaning ??

Postby timwingard » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:37 am

Here is the link to Randakk's boiling method: http://www.randakks.com/TechTip52.htm
He recommends 20 minutes. Good luck.

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Re: Carb cleaning ??

Postby k2bertie » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:10 am

Hi,

Very usefull thanks, just need to get one of those dental water jet piks, Thanks again

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Re: Carb cleaning ??

Postby k2bertie » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:15 am

Well I ended up taking my carbs off 5 times, I removed the Idle jet in the fuel chamber using a plasterboardscrew and got them out, I was very reluctant but a lot easier than I thought it would be, without damage, using a wire from a wire brush, after a lot of fiddly pushing eventually got them clean, so thanks to all who posted this method and fix. All four were blocked. I can now see why they block so easy, and it will be worth a regular Sea Foam clean. The old girl ticks over and runs like it was new. :lol:

Thanks to all of you out there for the help.

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Re: Carb cleaning ??

Postby timwingard » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:25 pm

I'm glad it worked out for you. Once you remove the idle jets, it becomes so clear if they are clogged. You know those carbs forward and backward now and I'm sure you are glad that task is over. Happy motoring!

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Re: Carb cleaning ??

Postby k2bertie » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:17 am

Thanks,

I am thinking of setting a part of my engineering workshop to servicing carbs, I can take them off, strip, service and put back in 4 hours. Polishing takes a bit longer. :lol: shame there ar'nt more GL's in Glasgow UK.




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