Alternator Removal


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Alternator Removal

Postby Devil-Doc » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:00 pm



The 82 GL 1100 I just got has a bad alternator, don't have funds to pull engine and all that to get to it, how's this idea to remove it?

If the frame where the alternator is was heated up couldn't it be moved enough to get the alternator out without yanking the engine out? Then re-heated and put back into place? The clearance I need us less than an inch to get it out.



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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby mrmikey » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:02 pm

Not owning an 1100 I don't know what he clearance issues are but do not heat the frame, you're asking for trouble....Mike
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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby Devil-Doc » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:34 pm

How about bending it or removing a section and welding it back?

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:51 pm

Don't go there PLEASE.
There's not any room for error on the frame and re-welding it would be difficult with everything right around it.You also have to remove the rear entire cover.So there..... :)
If your ABSOLUTELY sure the stator coils are bad,and I mean It's been verified, :geek: It wouldn't take much more effort or time to drop the motor and just fix it,rather than chopping the frame up and trying to weld it back together.
Given a good day I can,with just a few wrenches,drop a gl1100 engine on the jack in 2 hours.With coffee breaks,6 hours.

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby Devil-Doc » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:10 am

Velocity motors, the ones who incidentally diagnosed the bad alternator, said it would take 14 hours to pull engine, put in new alternator, and put back engine...total labor $1,500

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby RoadRogue » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:37 am

Are you serious about cutting a perfectly good motorcycle frame just to "save" you some time and effort in unbolting the engine the proper way? :o :shock: Really? :shock: Are you willing to compromise yours and others safety by trying to take short cuts? How would you get proper welds with the engine in the way? DONT DO IT !!!!!

You really only have three choices 1. sell the bike 2. replace the stator(remove the engine properly) 3. build a "poorboy" kit and install it.

Download a copy of the manual for your bike, read it and learn how to pull the engine yourself. You can do it if you take your time and you will have the satisfaction of getting in there to do the repairs. We are here to help if you get lost along the way. Besides you will save hundreds doing it yourself.There might even be a member near you that would be willing to give you a hand if you need it.
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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby Devil-Doc » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:09 am

I live in an Apt with no garage, although their is a parking garage right behind my building. If their are any members who live in Richmond Virginia let me know. I already have a manual of the bike. I am not mechanically inclined at all and would not undertake this Job by myself.

I heard that I could loosen the engine and turn it to get the alternator off??

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby littlebeaver » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:05 am

Man I remember those day's in a townhouse , rules rules rules, maybe when your lease is up you can find a house to rent.. Maybe share it with someone..With a garage..Do you wish to sell the bike as is...??? That's a heck of a problem for someone that isn't mechanical...Did you ever check the plug I told you about, the three yellow wires...??? Because you never said....

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby Devil-Doc » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:47 am

I just got the bike two weeks ago, not going to sell it Beev, still not sure what I was supposed to be looking at Ref those wires??

E-mail me at devil-doc@gmail.com I'll send some photos of my bike. My only access to Internet right now is my iPhone 4.

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:41 am

We can helP with step by step.In the mean time,put a battery tender on it to save the battery.Even without charging,you can get a couple of hours ride between charging. :)

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby Devil-Doc » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:57 am

Step by step through this forum....lol!! There you go!!

Riding the bike in between charges without charging it??? Is that like the art of fighting without fighting?

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:50 am

I'll be the first to admit it,NO redneck jokes Please.one year,with a burnt stator,I put a deep cycle marine battery in the trunk so I could ride that weekend.It got me by till I could spare 2 days to fix it :lol:

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby Devil-Doc » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:29 am

I did buy a battery tender yesterday and charged up the battery....it has a full charge on it now and is currently in maintenance mode. The battery is in my bedroom connected to the battery tender, supposed to be nice tomorrow and Sunday, hope to get several hours if riding in, only drain on battery is front headlight and several running lights around trunk.

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby mrmikey » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:56 am

....only drain on battery is front headlight and several running lights around trunk

Pull the fuse for the headlight and leave the ruinning lights, it'll add some more time....Mike
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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby Devil-Doc » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:33 pm

Not in my state!! Headlights on all the time.

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby littlebeaver » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:11 pm

In your bedroom :shock: :shock: :shock: Better not let management see it in there...Maintainance guy's where always in and out at my old place...Maybe you could rent a storage room for the winter months, probably could work on it a little there..I don't know...

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby littlebeaver » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:22 pm

Here's the location on the three yellow wires....click on the blue address...also anything related you can search for at the top of the page...that's how I found this...viewtopic.php?f=4&t=18

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:37 pm

If you really want to know how much time.Look at the amp hour rating of the battery.Your bike draws around 10 amp to run it and the lights,Soooo...If you had a 10 amp hour battery,it would run for 1 hour.(in theory)
Now before you go off on me.take into account the discharge required to crank it,the actual amp hour rating of your battery and you can't run it to 100% dead.
It's like this..A 80 amp hour battery can drain 10 amp for 8 hours before it's dead.For the bike,after cranking,a 80 amp hour battery might run the bike for 5 hours continuous before it kills the ignition without restarting the engine.
Take the charger with you.
Several hours on a non-charging bike???? maybe 2 or 3...Better take a spare battery.

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby Devil-Doc » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:13 pm

It's a 21 Amp hour battery

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby Devil-Doc » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:17 pm

Need a recommendation for a good aftermarket replacement Stator.

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:35 am

Devil-Doc wrote:Need a recommendation for a good aftermarket replacement Stator.


I'd probably go with an OEM just because it's a known quantity, but I know that some people have used the ElectroSport ESG060 as an aftermarket replacement with good results.

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby virgilmobile » Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:54 am

Devil-Doc wrote:It's a 21 Amp hour battery

If I had to venture a guess...Assuming a full charged battery,,Crank it up and drive it 1 and 1/2 hour before it leaves you dead beside the road.

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby Devil-Doc » Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:16 pm

Friend of mine who has a 2008 Goldwing said as long as it's running the battery won't die on it despite it having a bad stator??

You guys say I only have a short time riding before the battery dies.....both of you all can't be correct?? My friend is a long time bike rider also. I assume the state required headlight being on and my 6-7 running lights would definitely drain the battery at least a little bit??

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:28 pm

Devil-Doc wrote:Friend of mine who has a 2008 Goldwing said as long as it's running the battery won't die on it despite it having a bad stator??


Not true.

Even if you were able to switch all the lights off, the bike still needs power to run - the power for the spark plugs needs to come from somewhere. Transistorized ignition in the 1100 also requires power.

The 2008 has even more stuff to run - engine management computers, displays, etc. that also require power. It will go for a while, but when the battery is depleted, the engine will quit.

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Re: Alternator Removal

Postby RoadRogue » Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:45 pm

sorry to say your friend is wrong.If you cant recharge your battery while running it must be discharging.Its just a matter of when the bike will quit not if it will quit.

You could always put a car battery in your saddle bag and go for a ride till your bike battery dies,use a small set of jumper cables to connect the car battery to get back home. That way you will know how far away from home you would have been stranded if you had listened to your friend.just sayin.

you should get a quote from another shop for the stator replacement .14hrs labour is too much


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