Service Manual for 83 GL1100A Goldwing


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Service Manual for 83 GL1100A Goldwing

Postby micbery » Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:15 pm



Does anyone have a service manual for a 83 Goldwing?

Seems my on going starter issue has landed me in an unfortunate position, taken it on and off to many times I suppose. The starter chain has somehow jammed itself on the crank end, locking up the engine. Not much I can do from the starter port side, looks like I might need to go in from the other end.



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Re: Service Manual for 83 GL1100A Goldwing

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:53 pm

The chain doesn't actually connect to the crank. It connects to a sprag clutch which then connects to the crank. The sprag clutch is a one-way clutch that will allow the engine to rotate faster than the starter. That way the starter spins the engine, but as soon as the engine starts, it disengages from the (now slower turning) starter. So if the engine is locked, it isn't due to the starter.

The most common cause for a locked-up engine on 1100's is hydrolock - where fuel leaks past the float valves and into the cylinders, filling them up. The fuel is not compressible like air, so the engine cannot turn over as a result. The fix is easy: remove all the spark plugs, then crank the engine to eject the fuel out the spark plug holes. And then make sure you turn the fuel petcock off from now on to prevent it from happening again.

Let us know if that's what your problem is.

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Re: Service Manual for 83 GL1100A Goldwing

Postby micbery » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:15 pm

Thanks, but I tried that before I posted, I recalled you had mentioned it in another thead. The reason I am confused is after I did pull the plugs I tried pushing the bike to get it to turn over and it wouldnt.

It seems like something has is jamming the engine from turning over both forward and in rear motion?

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Re: Service Manual for 83 GL1100A Goldwing

Postby MJSantos » Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:16 pm

If you can, with the starter, out get a hold of the chain an see if you can pull it one way or the other. If the sprag clutch is free it will move for you. Another thought that comes to mind is a timing belt slipped teeth.

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Re: Service Manual for 83 GL1100A Goldwing

Postby micbery » Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:52 pm

I will pull the starter yet again, probably tomorrow and see if there s any movement. If the belt jumped a tooth ... how is it would lock up the engine?

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Re: Service Manual for 83 GL1100A Goldwing

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:01 pm

micbery wrote:I will pull the starter yet again, probably tomorrow and see if there s any movement. If the belt jumped a tooth ... how is it would lock up the engine?


If the timing belt jumps a tooth, the cams will be out of position, and a valve can be open at the same time a piston is trying to get to top dead center - and the piston will hit the valve, preventing it from moving any further, and effectively locking the engine in place.

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Re: Service Manual for 83 GL1100A Goldwing

Postby micbery » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:11 pm

Okay ... so what s my next then to making certain this, or not, the case?

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Re: Service Manual for 83 GL1100A Goldwing

Postby RBGERSON » Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:31 am

take spark plugs out..you could be hydro locked

Now take stator cap (back of engine, 2/4 side) off use a 17mm wrench..then try to rotate the bolt inside 12mm off set wrench..... only clockwise!!! if still locked then take the valve covers off..try to wiggle all the tappets any one that is tight back off until loose..Now no valve is being pushed out by tappets..try to turn engine again with stator bolt..if still locked ..valve may be hung up..bent !! Not good.

It is unlikely that the starter chain is locking your engine it's not connected to the engine unless the starter is spinning at speed.

PS I have an extra Honda service manual..in good shape..$30 plus $6 shipping and it's yours. You can download a PDF copy from the net if you know where to look but having an in hand paper manual is much better. Of course you download and print it out but it's about 350 pages or you can buy a brand new one at Helms.com for about $50
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Re: 83 GL1100A Goldwing Engine Lock

Postby micbery » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:00 pm

Excuse my ignorance here, but please explain location of the referred stator cap? Are you referring to the starter clutch cover, or the alternator cover itself? As it seems starter cover has a 12mm bolt at centre , with a bunch of 8mm holding it together. Where the alternator cover, has no center bolt. Only 8mm bolting itself together. The 17mm bolt referred to, I can not see?

Again, apologises to my ignorance, I am simply a student ... YOU guys are my guru `s

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Re: Service Manual for 83 GL1100A Goldwing

Postby MJSantos » Sun Dec 25, 2011 8:58 am

This pic shows the rear covers on the 1100. On the left is the bolt partially hidden by the stator wires. Inside is the 11mm bolt that you'll try to turn clockwise.
http://images.goldwingdocs.com/MJSantos_7727/Naked-Goldwing-Project_394/Custom-Build-28_thumbnail_2405.jpg

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Re: Service Manual for 83 GL1100A Goldwing

Postby micbery » Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:03 pm

Thanks for the photo, I see where to look now. Just off and above the starter clutch casing. Does that electical wiring thread out of the block (17mm) ... exposing the shaft? (11mm)

Silly questions ... dont want to make things worse than they are.

Also, I have pulled the starter and there is chain movement, therefore as suggested the starter clutch in not the problem.

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Re: Service Manual for 83 GL1100A Goldwing

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:48 am

Have a look at How to adjust your valve clearances, it shows exactly how to access and remove the stator cap, and how to rotate the engine by hand using it.

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Re: Service Manual for 83 GL1100A Goldwing

Postby micbery » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:53 am

Thank you for this one .. seems what I thinking as the starter clutch cover, is in fact referred to here as the stator cap and the centre bolt is more an obvious to access.

I will open her up tomorrow.

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Re: Service Manual for 83 GL1100A Goldwing

Postby micbery » Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:25 pm

Could it be that the top sprocket on the starter clutch has worn its teeth and therefore have caused the starter chain to bined, seizing, or locking the engine?




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