If it ain't broke do I fix it?


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captaindan
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If it ain't broke do I fix it?

Postby captaindan » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:45 pm



I am starting on my refurb for my 82 Interstate. The history is a darn near 30 year old bike with 150,000 plus miles, sitting in storage for the last few years. When I parked her the only problem I had was a bit of trouble with the charging system. (sporadic). My main symptom was the volt meter would start dropping the longer I rode. The stator plug was bypassed years ago by soldering the wires, but upon tearing it down, I found that the wires had some bare spots closer to the motor. That could be some of the problem.

When I pulled the bike out of storage, I found the carbs have stuck tight. So I did not fire it up prior to tear down. I did ohm out the stator using a multi-meter, but only a bench type test. No battery, no motor running. It passed.

Here's where I could use opinions/advice. If you were in my shoes, what would be your concerns for the motor. Should I just replace the stator? Water pump is tight, but should it be replaced? Head gaskets? I found no oil/anti-freeze mixture in any fluids I drained. I am a firm believer in the title of the thread, but am I going to run into leaking seals and gaskets once I get the ole girl back together and running? I don't like doing things twice, (pulling the motor) but sometimes you don't mess with that one lever. As in "Lever (leaver) alone".

I bought this bike new and everything is still pretty much stock. I also posted this on another site for more input.



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RBGERSON
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Re: If it ain't broke do I fix it?

Postby RBGERSON » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:56 pm

Note as the battery gets charged back up after the draw down for start up the regulator stop charging the battery at max..so depending on wiring of meter it may reflect the lower charging rate which is normal..at least that's what I have been told..I am no electrical expert.
HAD LOTS OF GOLDWING 75-83
NOW INTO 1500'S..RIDING A 1998 SE

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captaindan
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Re: If it ain't broke do I fix it?

Postby captaindan » Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:06 pm

I think a very slight drop is normal, but mine would drop below 10. When everything was in tip top shape, the meter would read in that 13 range and stay there while riding down the road.

As the years and miles passed by, it started acting up. If I rode for several hours and shut the bike down, it would be very low on charge upon start up. This tells me I was draining the battery with the lights and radio. Now A) the bare wires were compromising the charge, or B) it wasn't charging at full capacity.

Does that sound plausible?

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MJSantos
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Re: If it ain't broke do I fix it?

Postby MJSantos » Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:47 pm

My opinion would leave well enough alone with the water pump and head gaskets. As far as the voltage dropping I would hook a regular meter across the battery terminals and actually see what it's doing voltage wise. It could be in the on board meter circuit, possibly the battery itself aged, dirty connections. Like you said a 30yr old machine, anything is possible.

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RBGERSON
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Re: If it ain't broke do I fix it?

Postby RBGERSON » Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:48 am

YEP..HOOK METER TO THE BATTERY and ride with it where you can see it.
HAD LOTS OF GOLDWING 75-83
NOW INTO 1500'S..RIDING A 1998 SE

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SilverDave
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Re: If it ain't broke do I fix it?

Postby SilverDave » Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:10 pm

The stator needs to have the " Three Part Test " done to it, before it " passes " .

I would not replace the stator until it has actually " Failed " one part of that test .( Its about 14 hours work to re- and re the stator ). Ohming out the stator is only 1/3 of the test .

The electrically bare wire spots could be insulated with some "liquid rubber" compound , if thats the only problem.

Mine also had charging problems about 7 years ago.... and I finally found that the braided ground strap contact point was a lovely shade of green and white and making very poor contact to the frame . After a thorough cleaning,of both strap and frame contact point , charging improved...

Batteries are also not forever things... get a new one, or have the old one checked out by a professional battery shop ( Not a motorcycle dealer ).

Seals and gaskets are not going to be in worse shape than they were 5 years ago... I would just leave those, if you can get the carbs clean enough to make it run ..
(Replacing all the carb seals and stuff , of course, if you are tearing into the carbs)

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landisr
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Re: If it ain't broke do I fix it?

Postby landisr » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:33 pm

If the stator is indeed toast after running ALL the tests, you might consider a Poorboy alternator kit. One of the regular members here I believe has a tutorial about adapting one to an 1100.

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RexAubrey
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Re: If it ain't broke do I fix it?

Postby RexAubrey » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:10 am

Replace the timing belts. If they are older than 6 years or you do not know when they were changed last. The last thing you want to do is get the motor running again and have a belt fail. There is no way to tell the condition of the belts by looking at them. it is a cheap repair that will save you an expensive repair if they break on you.


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