1983 Goldwing Interstate GL1100 DOA


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1983 Goldwing Interstate GL1100 DOA

Postby tulum69 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:43 pm



Hello

I have had my 1983 Honda Goldwing Interstate GL100 for over a year now, the bike has run great, runs strong and have been on runs with my girlfriend on it but as winter rolled in here in Colorado the bike riding was reduced, I for one still ride in the winter when the roads are clear and when its cold down to 18 degrees, this does not bother me but the bike hated cold starts, this was the beginning, the bike sat through November and rode it once, the bike had died in December during a below zero cold snap we had last month, it has warmed up but the bike won't start, at first it was a low slow turn of the starter than rapid clicking sound, off and on all I would get is clicking sounds than nothing, I beleive the battery died and I have replaced it with a new one, after charging the new one the bike just clicks once when I press the start button and still will not turn over, so here is where I am at, does anyone know if I have a starter issue or a stator issue? I have read in another post that putting the bike in high gear and rolling it backwards may help clear up the stator or the second starter as some call it.

Any help will bee appreciated so I can get her rolling again, weather has been warm in the 50's and 60's and bikes are out and about and would like to join them, also, any tips that I could use on maintainence, the bike has under 58,000 miles on it and as I have stated it has ran great.

Thank you for looking at my post



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Re: 1983 Goldwing Interstate GL1100 DOA

Postby tulum69 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:20 pm



This is my bike I am refering to above in my post

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Re: 1983 Goldwing Interstate GL1100 DOA

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:29 pm

If your bike "clicks"when you push the start button,at least there is electric getting to the starter relay.
Now,how much and if it's getting any further,or if the engine will turn over ,you will need to test.

I got caught on my 1100 working on the starter system when in fact the bike was 'hydro-locked'.I just needed to pull the plugs out and blast the flooded gas out of the cylinder.

I make the assumption that the battery is good,terminals cleaned and the solenoid , in fact, does click each time you push the start button and STAYS energized(dirty start button) and all the lights work(enough power)

It would be nice to have 1 piece of test equipment..A cheap digital volt meter. Get one at Harbor Freight for under $10.

Step 1..Attach the leads of your newly purchased fancy meter to the engine block(not the battery)and the starter post..On the starter post,not the wire,not the solenoid,right on the threaded post.Turn on the key and press the start button.Look at the meter.If it's 12 volts or a bit more,the starter is bad.Rebuild it.

Step 2.If there is little or no volts there,move up to the starter relay,next to the battery.Turn on the key and press the start button.One post should be the same as the battery volts,the other goes to the starter.I've heard relays 'click' and do nothing inside.

Also a badly corroded ground at the frame can kill the start system.You would see the volts drop at the battery positive terminal using the engine as the meter ground,but not going directly across the battery terminals.Thus the reason for the precise placement of the volt meters test leads.

As far as the "stator"..It's the 3 yellow wires that need repairing.and the second starter is a clutch assembly in the block.It can cause the starter to "free wheel"

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Re: 1983 Goldwing Interstate GL1100 DOA

Postby tulum69 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:53 pm

@VirgilMobile, Thanks, I will give that a try and post the results.

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Re: 1983 Goldwing Interstate GL1100 DOA

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:58 pm

For maintance ....REPLACE the timing belts ASAP.There cheap at Napa.Flush all the brake fluid out with new fluid.Change the oil again and ride it like you stole it :D

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Re: 1983 Goldwing Interstate GL1100 DOA

Postby RBGERSON » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:15 am

You may have fried your starter trying to start it in cold weather. It has to rest,cool off, between tries at starting. Quick check, is to use a car battery and jumper cables..neg to engine/frame..positive to starter post. Use a light touch for a second or two no more, if the starter turns right over you have issues at the solenoid, negative ground cable, battery or starter circuit wiring. To avoid issues with hydro-lock being the source of your problem..loosen all the plugs a bit and have the kill switch turned to ..OFF = no sparks in cylinder while doing the above. Virgin's steps above with sort it out..if the car battery doesn't turn the starter.
HAD LOTS OF GOLDWING 75-83
NOW INTO 1500'S..RIDING A 1998 SE

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Re: 1983 Goldwing Interstate GL1100 DOA

Postby tulum69 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:38 pm

RBGERSON wrote:You may have fried your starter trying to start it in cold weather. It has to rest,cool off, between tries at starting. Quick check, is to use a car battery and jumper cables..neg to engine/frame..positive to starter post. Use a light touch for a second or two no more, if the starter turns right over you have issues at the solenoid, negative ground cable, battery or starter circuit wiring. To avoid issues with hydro-lock being the source of your problem..loosen all the plugs a bit and have the kill switch turned to ..OFF = no sparks in cylinder while doing the above. Virgin's steps above with sort it out..if the car battery doesn't turn the starter.


Thank you for all the info, I will try these out as soon as it gets warmer in the next day ot two, the last couple of times I have tried to start after the new battery installation all I would get is a one click sound and it had been cold in the evening. I do admit it is time for service on this bike with its age and the short time I have owned it, again thank you and VirgilMobile for all your help. :D

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Re: 1983 Goldwing Interstate GL1100 DOA

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:58 pm

Keep us up to date on what happens.I hate being the ugly step-child or toad-stool.
What you find and post about it can help others that may have the same trouble.
You know...were making you the guinea pig on this one.
Good luck.

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Re: 1983 Goldwing Interstate GL1100 DOA

Postby tulum69 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:45 pm

Allright, I was able to get to my bike this past weekend, I had rolled the bike bike to loosen things up, battery is on a battery tender and I purchased a solanoid relay that seats next to the battery and replaced the power cable from the battery to the the solanoid as it was fried with semi melted insulation wrappped with electrical tape, previous owner or owners had done this and I only discoverd this after starting this work. After installing the relay and making sure all was tight I tried to start the bike and still nothing, I gave the starter a couple of bangs and it started to want to come to life but was a low, barely moving "Whirrrr" I have determined that the issue lies with the starter itself after trying most of the above recommendations, I plan now to purchase a starter and the cable that comes off the solanoid to the starter and will do the oil change with Sea Foam to clear things up internaly and drain and fill with fresh oil. getting closer to getting back on two wheels! :D

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Re: 1983 Goldwing Interstate GL1100 DOA

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:59 pm

If your goin to buy another one....why not rip that one off the bike,tear it apart and see what makes it tick....or in your case,not tick.On occasion the starters are repairable cheaper than replacing them,and aftermarket starters can be of poor quality.
Each starter i've looked at(so far) has needed new brushes,a good clean and lube .
There is a "how to" section about rebuilding your starter....Just a thought...viewtopic.php?f=11&t=259

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Re: 1983 Goldwing Interstate GL1100 DOA

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:12 pm

Yep, I'd hold off on the new starter just yet...the oem ones are really good starters, the brushes are probably worn down, or it's very very dirty inside, these need to be cleaned out from time to time, when I push that button on mine, the bike starts right away everytime, I got so much crap out of it when I cleaned it, 30 years worth..clean then try it would be my advise, if it fails then buy a new one...

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Re: 1983 Goldwing Interstate GL1100 DOA

Postby tulum69 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:58 pm

thank you, I will try the rebuild first, I have saved a link to my computer about how to remove and repair and clean a starter, I will post as sonn as i am able to remove the starter.

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Re: 1983 Goldwing Interstate GL1100 DOA

Postby tulum69 » Mon May 14, 2012 3:36 pm

Sorry that I have not been on here for awile but I want to let evryone that I replaced the starter, when I removed the old one and took it apart I found lts of internal damage, one of the "brushes was wore down while the other appeared to not have touched the coil, it appears that everything in the casing was crooked and lots of carbon dust so I opted to just buy a new one off of Amazon.com, the new one was only $85.00 and I installed it about 7 weeks ago and also replaced the battery and the so called second starter that sits next to the battery and lastly the positive cable, Yhanks for all the help in these posts, I am riding again and the Goldwing, She Lives!




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