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starter locks up

Postby grandpagak » Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:03 pm



i have a 1981 gold wing.. my problem is this,, sometimes when i go to start it, it seems to lock up the starter.. i have replaced the starter with a used one that i bought off of e- bay.. this starter does that also.. if i rock the bike while in gear it will un lock.. has any one else had this problem? what is the problem?? the starter or something else??



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Re: starter locks up

Postby D2D » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:08 pm

Sounds to me like it could be one of two problems. #1 could be a hydro lockup; too much fuel leaking by. Pull your plugs, turn the kill switch off and try the starter. If it works then be sure to shut the petcock off each time you put away the bike and check your compression. #2 Could also be gunk in the starter clutch mechanism. There are a number of posts on this subject but to save you a search; change your oil and filter, add some Seafoam to your oil ( don't overfill ) and ride it gently for a few days, then change the oil and filter again. Hope this helps

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Re: starter locks up

Postby grandpagak » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:43 pm

it doesnt seem to be the engine thats the trouble. it seems as if it is the starter it self, or maybe the chain drive thingy in there. is that possible?? if so what kinda job is that??

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Re: starter locks up

Postby dingdong » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:10 am

Can you define "lockup". Not sure what you mean.
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Re: starter locks up

Postby grandpagak » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:55 am

it is like the engine is locked solid when you hit the starter.. it just goes ugh. no give at all.. it would seem to me that it is the starter, solinoid, or maybe the starter drive chain thingy in the inside.. but im pretty sure that it isnot the engine it self.. because you can bump start the engine easily.. it seems just like the starter is binding somewhere.. thanx guys.

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Re: starter locks up

Postby dingdong » Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:16 am

Well, it seems to me that you have 2 defective starters. I would pull one of them apart and inspect the internal condition. I would suspect the brushes. But it could be burned commutators or even bad bearings. The Sprague clutch is doing it's job if the starter is engaging the engine as in UGH. Opening the starter isn't hard just be careful when loosening the hot wire post nuts. Don't let the post turn. You can also eliminate the solenoid by shorting directly across the terminals.
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Re: starter locks up

Postby BigSwede » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:46 am

There's an excellent tutorial on rebuilding the starter in the how-to section, I used it on mine and it made a world of difference.

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Re: starter locks up

Postby Carbide » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:27 pm

dingdong wrote:Well, it seems to me that you have 2 defective starters. I would pull one of them apart and inspect the internal condition. I would suspect the brushes. But it could be burned commutators or even bad bearings. The Sprague clutch is doing it's job if the starter is engaging the engine as in UGH. Opening the starter isn't hard just be careful when loosening the hot wire post nuts. Don't let the post turn. You can also eliminate the solenoid by shorting directly across the terminals.

When you say "eliminate the solenoid by shorting across..." If I do that... Would I get the typical direct "hit" of power to the stater motor? (like on an old ford solenoid)... I actually did that, and heard nothing .. When I hit the start button all I get is a click at the solenoid, and yes I have a very good battery. The first time I tried to fire it up .. I got two revolutions from the engine before it went to a click. I did "pop start" it to get it running. But I need some advice before go out and start buying parts.

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Re: starter locks up

Postby Steve F » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:57 pm

Start with checking ALL your battery-to-starter connections. A slightly loose connection can do what you're describing. Check that solenoid connections too, and the ground cable from the battery at BOTH ends.
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Re: starter locks up

Postby Carbide » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:03 am

Will do !
Have the bike back in the "safe area" after it sitting or around four days at the bottom of our driveway. ( I did not get the bike started with the "popstart".) So I will certainly try to do what you said !
I'll keep you posted.... TANX !

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