.... and then it went "Clunk" !!


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.... and then it went "Clunk" !!

Postby SilverDave » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:12 pm



The 1200 had overheated a bit the last time it was started, so I thought I would check out the fan motor/switch/ fuse.
It turned over once... and then it went "Clunk" !!
and now it will not turn over at all..
Heavy Sigh.......

So... without tearing it all apart, is there any EASY way to decide if it :
....... " seized" ?
.................... bent valve or valves ?
....................................... broken timing belt ?
or what.????

Any tricks that anyone knows about , like trying to turn it over, using the back wheel, while in gear ?

I have read several times that its better to re and re with another good running engine from a totaled wing, than to try to repair a 1200 engine...


Any suggestions ?


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Re: .... and then it went "Clunk" !!

Postby fysty-1 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:36 pm

Dave you can first pull your timing covers & that will show you you belts. If all if fine there, try to turn it over by hand to see if the engine is hanging up on anything. Doing this by hand allows you to first off be careful & secondly tund engine over on both direction. Also don't for get about your fellow Langleyite, Andy with Silverwings. I don't know what your abilities or finances are like but unless you trust them fully don't go near Holeshot. If you need a mech see Steve @ 3-D in Abby on Clearbrook near the hwy. I'm not much of a diognitisn(?) so I can't say if it is hydro locked or seized or what. And if you are considering a replacement, I may be in the market to let baby go to a good home. Just something I have been toying with & it would be cheap. I just live down @ Hazelmere so I am not far away. Anyway regardless of what you do good luck. cheers Angela aka fysty-1.
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Re: .... and then it went "Clunk" !!

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:50 pm

Pull the plugs just in case it is hydro locked

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Re: .... and then it went "Clunk" !!

Postby thrasherg » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:26 pm

I have to second Virgil's suggestion, before you get too depressed and dismantle the engine too much, remove all the spark plugs and see if it will turn over. Sometimes, the carbs get dirt in them and then overflow and allow the petrol to run down into a cylinder, liquids cannot be compressed so the engine locks up.. If you remove the spark plugs you allow the petrol to run out the spark plug hole (Make sure the kill switch is in the off position as you do not want any sparks!!) and the engine can then rotate. If the spark plug removal solves your problem then you need to plan on a weekend to remove and clean the carbs!! Let us know how you get on..

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Re: .... and then it went "Clunk" !!

Postby fysty-1 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:17 pm

Thanks guys. I mentioned Hydro Locked but couldn't remember what it was exactly & the suggestion about pulling plugs & kill switch. thnx Angela
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Re: .... and then it went "Clunk" !!

Postby SilverDave » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:17 am

Dear Friends and colleagues :
Thank you for the encouraging words: I was certainly all set to have to play with it for a month or 3 .... or to take it out, and have it quietly put down with a .45 thru the starter ... lol


I had not thought of hydro lock, or just looking at only the heads, which apparently can be removed with engine in the machine ...

I feel a little better .
TY Ty
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Re: .... and then it went "Clunk" !!

Postby fysty-1 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:01 pm

SD, good luck with the un blocking. Angela :D :D
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Re: .... and then it went "Clunk" !!

Postby firstwing85 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:49 pm

Hello SilverDave,
since I had my engine out twice last year I sure learned a lot and if there is anything I can help you with just let me know.
Johan

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Re: .... and then it went "Clunk" !!

Postby SilverDave » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:38 pm

FirstWing : Thank you so much ...
If its just a " Hydro" lock... I don't want to really take the engine out if I don't have to...
If I have bent something, and need to remove it... I would welcome your assistance .

My mechanic friend says its most probably a hydro, and then second most possibly a broken timing belt, both of which can be done with the bike in the frame .

Thanks for the offer
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Re: .... and then it went "Clunk" !!

Postby fysty-1 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:07 pm

You are most welcome. Who do you use as your mecenec? :D :D :D
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Re: .... and then it went "Clunk" !!

Postby firstwing85 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:08 pm

SilverDave wrote:FirstWing : Thank you so much ...
If its just a " Hydro" lock... I don't want to really take the engine out if I don't have to...
If I have bent something, and need to remove it... I would welcome your assistance .

My mechanic friend says its most probably a hydro, and then second most possibly a broken timing belt, both of which can be done with the bike in the frame .

Thanks for the offer
SilverDave


No problem,
I'm thinking that it's probably right and you should be on the road soon.
let us know how it turns out. :D :D
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Re: .... and then it went "Clunk" !!

Postby fysty-1 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:54 pm

fysty-1 wrote:You are most welcome. Who do you use as your mecenec? :D :D :D

OOOOPPPS!!! sorry I mis read the greeting. How I saw fysty-1 instead of FirstWing, I'll never know just old age I guess. Have to blame it on sumpin ya no. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: .... and then it went "Clunk" !!

Postby englishted » Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:02 pm

SilverDave wrote:FirstWing : Thank you so much ...
If its just a " Hydro" lock... I don't want to really take the engine out if I don't have to...
If I have bent something, and need to remove it... I would welcome your assistance .

My mechanic friend says its most probably a hydro, and then second most possibly a broken timing belt, both of which can be done with the bike in the frame .

SilverDave



Yes it can be done with the engine in the frame. This article shows the timing belt and pulleys set up: http://www.goldwingfacts.com/1200timingbelts.htm

This video shows how to replace the belts, if you decided to go that far:







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