84 GL1200I signal cancelling


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84 GL1200I signal cancelling

Postby garlo » Sun May 06, 2012 9:14 pm



Good evening fellow bikers. This would be my first posting here and I am looking for advice on the signal canceller on my 84 'wing. It seems that they work sometimes and most times they don't. How do the actually cancel? It is with speen or angle of the turn that turns the signals off. This is my first 'wing and so far I have given it a new ''suit'' [painted it over the winter - kept original color (as close as we could get) but no striping.]

When I use the signals most times I have to manually turn them off. Any kind of help would be appreciated. I do have a shop manual but for the life of me I cannot find any info on this particular part.

Thanks in advance and keep on teaching us newbies.

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Re: 84 GL1200I signal cancelling

Postby virgilmobile » Sun May 06, 2012 10:17 pm

The 84 wing uses 3 things to cancel the turn signal.Speed sensor,angle sensor,and a built in timer.
The actual cancel is done by applying volts to a solenoid in the bottom of the turn signal switch assembly.
Common problems.....The angle sensor...it's mounted under the triple tree.3 wires,it tests like a volume control.
The speed sensor...Track the wire to the control box and turn the wheel,it should pulse.
The solenoid...Disassemble the switch mechanism ,test and lube it.
Test the control module for volts and ground.Mine was obviously bad as it had a swollen case...All the magic smoke came out of it.
Post if you need exact test procedures and schematics.

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Re: 84 GL1200I signal cancelling

Postby garlo » Tue May 08, 2012 4:18 am

Good morning and thank you for the speedy reply.

A slight update - the signals will self cancel if the bike is hot [sitting in the sun] but seem to be persnickety [work/not work] when cold [morning and cooler days]

Schematics and test procedures would be most helpful, thank you.

Appreciate everything I have seen and learned here.

Have a better day than I am gonna have and mine will be fantastic ! ! !
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Re: 84 GL1200I signal cancelling

Postby virgilmobile » Tue May 08, 2012 7:35 am

I'll work up a comprehensive test for the system today.
Thanks for the rest of the story,more details help the diagnosis.Thermal....good to know..parts expand when warm,could be binding the solenoid when cold.

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Re: 84 GL1200I signal cancelling

Postby virgilmobile » Tue May 08, 2012 8:33 am

I do need some details about your bike.
There are a couple of different types of canceler systems depending on how the bike was outfitted.
First.To cancel your turn signal,do you push IN the button or Slide it back to the center off position?
Do you have a Digital speedometer or a analog needle type?

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Re: 84 GL1200I signal cancelling

Postby garlo » Tue May 08, 2012 6:01 pm

Signal switch is a slider type - speedo is analog

Also - and please forgive me for neglecting this - the signal switch will ''click'' like it wants to cancel but I have to return switch to center position.

And once again - I cannot thank you enough for the help.
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Re: 84 GL1200I signal cancelling

Postby virgilmobile » Tue May 08, 2012 7:33 pm

Ooooo. just what you said helps a lot. the switch/solenoid has dried up grease in it.
Disassemble the turn signal switch.Have a extra pair of eyes on it too.
Use a magnet to keep the screws together.
Pull the switch and solenoid out..........There are 2 springs in there,so watch for it.I know cause i lost one once.
Clean,de-grease and lube every moving part with grease.Just a little.Except the plunger in the solenoid.Leave it clean.
Clean the copper contacts with some 200 grit paper.stretch the little spring that pushes the shorting bar down just a tad,grease it to keep it in place for assembly.

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Re: 84 GL1200I signal cancelling

Postby garlo » Wed May 09, 2012 7:42 pm

Again - thanks

I will be tackling this over the next week or so and will post any ''probs''/successes that I have with it.

Cannot thank you enough for the input :D
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Re: 84 GL1200I signal cancelling

Postby Mooseman » Wed May 09, 2012 9:02 pm

Just take your time. Pictures and lay the parts out so you get it back together the same way. A few photos in my gallery.
http://www.goldwingdocs.com/UserPicture ... Switch_463
The switches get full of gunk and need to be cleaned and easy on the lube/grease.
Enjoy the ride. They are all good, just some better than others.
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Re: 84 GL1200I signal cancelling

Postby garlo » Sat May 12, 2012 5:10 pm

Update:

Got the switch apart today and cleaned it as best I could. Signals working like they were meant to.

Again I cannot thank you all enough for the help/info.

Now all I need to do it get the starter off [dragging severly after riding] and get it ''de-gunked'' :-)

Appreciate it guys - hope that you all have a great weekend.
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Re: 84 GL1200I signal cancelling

Postby virgilmobile » Sat May 12, 2012 7:46 pm

About the same problem in there too.Old dried up grease in the gearbox.Look at the How To for the starter.
Use a wrench under the cable before you try to take off the nut.
If the stud turns,it can rip the wires off inside.Some will remove the cable from the solenoid and leave it attached to the starter.
I took a 10mm box end wrench and ground it down thin enough to get behind the cable.




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