84 Apencade 1200- Starter fails to crank sometimes


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84 Apencade 1200- Starter fails to crank sometimes

Postby gof » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:54 pm



Ok, while I am fixing other issues, I figured this little mystery probably has an answer and I hope it's a "cheap and easy" one :)

When I try and start, sometimes it just moves the starter just a hair and stops. I have to pause, start again and again until it finally suddenly can spin the starter.

I have had this issue for a few seasons before the bike went into storage. This year and the last few seasons when I was riding, I have been using Walmart batteries. Is this a cold cranking amps issue?



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Re: 84 Apencade 1200- Starter fails to crank sometimes

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:45 am

This is assuming that all the battery connections and ground lug have been scraped clean and the battery is good.Have it load tested.
Use a test light directly on the starter post and engine case.
Crank the engine.When it won't crank,if the light is on,repair the starter.If the light is off,replace the start solenoid.

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Re: 84 Apencade 1200- Starter fails to crank sometimes

Postby thrasherg » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:07 pm

Are you certain you do not have a hydraulic lock in one of the cylinders, that is preventing the starter motor from turning over the engine? Occasionally a carb starts to leak and lets fuel flow through the carb and down into the cylinder, Fuel cannot be compressed (Its a liquid) and this prevents the engine from turning over, after a long wait the fuel can leak past rings and valves to the point that the engine can be turned over and started.. I would suggest the next time this happens, try immediately removing the 4 spark plugs and see if any fuel comes out one of the cylinders.. If fuel does come out then you need to service the carb feeding that cylinder, if no gas comes out then this was not your problem.. It's an easy test and costs nothing..

Gary

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Re: 84 Apencade 1200- Starter fails to crank sometimes

Postby gof » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:12 pm

thrasherg wrote:Are you certain you do not have a hydraulic lock in one of the cylinders, that is preventing the starter motor from turning over the engine? Occasionally a carb starts to leak and lets fuel flow through the carb and down into the cylinder, Fuel cannot be compressed (Its a liquid) and this prevents the engine from turning over, after a long wait the fuel can leak past rings and valves to the point that the engine can be turned over and started.. I would suggest the next time this happens, try immediately removing the 4 spark plugs and see if any fuel comes out one of the cylinders.. If fuel does come out then you need to service the carb feeding that cylinder, if no gas comes out then this was not your problem.. It's an easy test and costs nothing..

Gary


Possible, but the wait I am speaking off is only 5-10 seconds between tries.

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Re: 84 Apencade 1200- Starter fails to crank sometimes

Postby thrasherg » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:43 pm

Okay, then it's probably not hydraulic lock!! I thought you meant 20 or 30 minutes between tries..

Gary




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