Preventing stator problems


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bwagner6
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Preventing stator problems

Postby bwagner6 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:26 pm



I have an 86 Aspy with just 6k miles on her.... Should I be cutting plugs and such to prevent future problems with the charging system? Please be specific I'm a newbie! Thanks guys.



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Re: Preventing stator problems

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:43 pm

In louisiana a mechanical connection left to the elements will corrode in short order.
There are no vapor sealed plugs on these bikes like the new cars use.
So as a preventive measure,on all my bikes,I've made a habit of removing critical plugs and soldering each wire.
I only do this on critical areas like the 2 plugs on the charging system and the plugs to ignition system and pulse coils.
These seem to be the ones that fail and can leave you side the road.

I also remove and clean the start button and kill switch then use a bit of dielectric grease.

I don't mind if the turn signals go dead from a bad connection but I sure wont be left with a dead battery of failed ignition because of a corroded connector.

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Re: Preventing stator problems

Postby Ghostrider52005 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:56 pm

Cut the plugs out in front of the battery and solder the stator wires, same at the regulator, Do the solenoid mod by cutting the two red white stripe wires joining them together and connecting them directly to the pos battery post with a 30 am inline blade fuse holder and fuse. Pulse gen plug at front of battery.
Now when youve done all that youve done about all you can do as far as plugs going bad burning up etc. That being said you are fighting a losing battle. Rare is the 1200 that goes over 60000 miles without the stator failing. I have two and LTD and wifes interstate. The LTD went 80000 but i suspect that the stator had been changed before I got it with 40000 on it. I did all the connection mods etc and it still flopped at 80000. The wifes interstate just went this past weekend at 42000.
To be honest by the time you cut solder wire fuse etc trying to prevent the unpreventable, its a lot easier to just do the poorboy conversion to the external alternator and be done with it.
After owning two 1200s and knowing scores more that lost their stators as well, when and if i ever get another one itll get the poorboy conversion before it rolls a wheel good stator or not.

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Re: Preventing stator problems

Postby Right Winger » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:29 am

Well low and behold I met a guy a couple weeks back that has a 84 Aspy the same color as mine. I sold him some parts and we were talking about the bikes . His had about 140 K on it and it looked like it was rode hard and put away wet a many of days.

To make a long story short I pulled his left side cover to check his stator plug . And the darn thing wasn't even scorched ! :shock: No discoloration and looked as it did when it was new :shock: . I asked him had he ever had any charging problem he said no . My bike has only 85 K and has had numerious stator problems :roll:

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Re: Preventing stator problems

Postby SilverDave » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:43 am

As long as you are cutting / soldering / Triple shrink wrapping ...

I'd also recommend a Electrical connections harness... and do the three part stator test on the cut wires

See my post here : ( 9th one down )

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10513

Electrical connections harness :

http://www.electricalconnection.com/wir ... charge.htm

I have had no electrical problems for a decade after doing this ...

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Re: Preventing stator problems

Postby Ghostrider52005 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:38 pm

AWLKRSN wrote:Well low and behold I met a guy a couple weeks back that has a 84 Aspy the same color as mine. I sold him some parts and we were talking about the bikes . His had about 140 K on it and it looked like it was rode hard and put away wet a many of days.

To make a long story short I pulled his left side cover to check his stator plug . And the darn thing wasn't even scorched ! :shock: No discoloration and looked as it did when it was new :shock: . I asked him had he ever had any charging problem he said no . My bike has only 85 K and has had numerious stator problems :roll:



140,000 miles with no stator replacement and no burnt plug? :shock: Since 80 percent of 1200s cant get past 60000 without melting down Id say that guy either isnt the original owner and the whole three wires plug stator etc has been replaced and he doenst know it, or hes the stator god that forsook Honda right after that bike was built :lol:

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Re: Preventing stator problems

Postby virgilmobile » Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:39 am

I'll compile my pictures and make a new post of the soldering on the entire charging system I've done to eliminate the problems.

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1984 GL 1200A Stator

Postby Erae » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:29 pm

Does anyone know if a Electrosport ESG060 stator a good choice for replacing the OEM stator

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Re: Preventing stator problems

Postby Right Winger » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:36 am

Well I learned the hard way by ordering one from them having it last 15 minutes after a two day ordeal . I got one from Custom Rewound of Birmingham AL . That's who I highly recomend . I called the guy and talked to him and he explained exactly what the difference is between his and theirs.

I got it and put it in myself and been happy ever after

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Re: Preventing stator problems

Postby Erae » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:35 am

AWLKRSN wrote:Well I learned the hard way by ordering one from them having it last 15 minutes after a two day ordeal . I got one from Custom Rewound of Birmingham AL . That's who I highly recomend . I called the guy and talked to him and he explained exactly what the difference is between his and theirs.

I got it and put it in myself and been happy ever after

Thanks for the info .Its a job I would prefer to do only once




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