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MegaMan
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NO ELECTRIC

Postby MegaMan » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:43 am



Hi all!

Well, i have created a mystery. The bike ran and shut down the night before per usual, perfectly .... The very next morning, it was 100% dead. Fully charged new battery. NO INSTRUMENTS PANEL or HEADLIGHT.



Any ideas where to start looking?

Regards,

Wes



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Re: NO ELECTRIC

Postby dnehasert » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:48 am

Check the 30 A. fuse on the starter solenoid next to the battery. If you don't have one, buy a service manual, Clymer or hanes make them,or by the Honda manual from helms.

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Re: NO ELECTRIC

Postby seabee_ » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:38 am

Yep, start at the battery and work towards the ignition switch. Be sure to check the dog bone fuse and other main fuses to see where you lost the power. The dog bone fuse could look good but have a crack . Make sure all connectors are good and clean, no corrosion. Check the white stator plug left of the battery for melting or burning. post back what you find.
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Re: NO ELECTRIC

Postby MegaMan » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:15 am

Thank you! Found the problem. Where the dog bone fuse, is a spaded terminal. VERY CRUNCHY.

Regards,

Wes

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Re: NO ELECTRIC

Postby seabee_ » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:16 am

Most people swap it out with a regular automotive type fuse. Unless you still have some spare fuses for it.
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Re: NO ELECTRIC

Postby MegaMan » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:27 am

Thank you SeaBee!
:lol:

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Re: NO ELECTRIC

Postby mervk » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:28 am

Well, I have exactly the same problem today, and found this while searching for an answer. 1986 1200 GLI with sidecar, and regular battery replaced by car battery in chair boot. Been sitting a while and I forgot to undo the battery switch, so it drained. Put a booster battery on in a hurry, and connected it backwards. No sparks or anything, and realised my mistake quick. But not quick enough. I now have no digital trip readout, ignition, or any sign of life.

Checked the 30 amp fuse, as well as the fusible link (dogbone), and both good with power at the outlet side. So I have burnt something out in my stupidity. Before I start pulling bits off the bike willy nilly, any suggestions as to what damage I may have caused? What locations should I start at? Under the seat? Up the front? I soldered the three alternator wires some time ago.

All suggestions welcome.

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Re: NO ELECTRIC

Postby seabee_ » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:34 pm

Remove the fairing glove box on the left and you will find a couple of fuses there. Open the faux tank door and remove the tray inside and you will find a fuse box there too. Hopefully, all you did was blow a fuse somewhere.
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Re: NO ELECTRIC

Postby mervk » Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:32 pm

Well, that'll teach me to read properly. One of the first posts in this thread said "check the 30 amp fuse in the solenoid". I checked the flat tin 30 amp fuse in it's own holder, as well as the 30 amp blade fuse in it's own holder. Wiring diagram showed two 30 amp fuses, and both mine were ok. Removed seat, tank surround, panels, gloveboxes, and all manner of things following wires, but though I was getting power to many places, none to the ignition switch.

Decided to tidy up the wiring around the solenoid, and first thing I spot is the inscription under the solenoid plastic cove, "30 amp fuse". The blown fuse was right under my nose all along. Turns out I have 3 of 30 amp fuses. Also turns out if I'd read the earlier post correctly I would have found my problem much faster.

As a note of interest I was unable to buy a replacement flat metal fuse, so went to my local home electrical store and bought a roll of old fashioned 30 amp wire. Seems to be doing the trick. Thanks for the help.

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Re: NO ELECTRIC

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:58 pm

30 amp wire is not the same as a 30 amp fuse. I'd suggest using a blade fuse replacement - see this message: http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic ... 3072#p3072

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Re: NO ELECTRIC

Postby mervk » Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:49 pm

Thanks WingAdmin, but to fit a blade fuse, I have to mutilate the solenoid plastic cover/fuse holder to be able to get the wires in to the terminals, and I don't want to do that. This fuse is built into the solenoid itself, not the seperate dog bone. I have ordered 2 new original flat metal fuses from my local Honda dealer - only $2 each. However the 30 amp wire I am using is not straight electrical wire rated to carry 30 amp. It is the old fashioned wire fuse electricians used to use in the ceramic fuses in our AC home supply meter box. And I'm told amps are amps, whether the power supply is 240v ac or 12v dc. So unless that advice is wrong, I'm comfortable using it.

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