Locating choke for my 85 LTD GL1200


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Locating choke for my 85 LTD GL1200

Postby TedFichialos » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:24 am



I hate to ask a stupid question but can anyone tell if my 1985 LTD GL1200 has a manual choke or automatic. I called our local Honda dealer and they said it was on the left side of the handle bars. Either I'm blind or they don't know what they are talking about. I've had the bike for about 5 months and for the first time this morning it was difficult getting it started. If it is an automatic is there a proper way to start it? Thank you in advance for any help.

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Re: Locating choke for my 85 LTD GL1200

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:35 am

Well,if it's a fuel injected model,there is no choke.The carb models do have a lever just in front of the left hand grip.It rotates down to en-richen the fuel for a cold start.

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Re: Locating choke for my 85 LTD GL1200

Postby TedFichialos » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:40 am

Yes it is a fuel injection model. A friend of mine said that I should start it like a diesel, turn the key on and wait a second give it half throddle and then it should start easier. Have you ever heard of that process?

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Re: Locating choke for my 85 LTD GL1200

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:23 am

I haven't heard that...

As I understand the system,when the key is first turned on,the pump cycles for 1.5 seconds to pressurize the system.
As you crank the engine,the throttle setting determines how long the injectors stay open.
I don't believe the system has any provision for fuel en-richening like the carbs have.There is no accelerator pump,just 4 injectors.

So what you mention should work fine.It should just give it a bit more gas.
Let us know what the results are.Your probably not the only one with this question.

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Re: Locating choke for my 85 LTD GL1200

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:00 pm

TedFichialos wrote:I hate to ask a stupid question but can anyone tell if my 1985 LTD GL1200 has a manual choke or automatic. I called our local Honda dealer and they said it was on the left side of the handle bars. Either I'm blind or they don't know what they are talking about. I've had the bike for about 5 months and for the first time this morning it was difficult getting it started. If it is an automatic is there a proper way to start it? Thank you in advance for any help.

Ted


It's the second option - they don't know what they're talking about. :) The LTD is fuel injected, and has no choke. The mixture is controlled entirely by the computer, which will enrichen it automatically when it is cold. You turn the ignition on, and in a second or two the fuel pump has pressurized the fuel rails, and you should be able to start it normally. Is it difficult to start only when it's cold?

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Re: Locating choke for my 85 LTD GL1200

Postby TedFichialos » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:08 pm

Well it wasn't very cold this morning. It had been sitting for about a week because of rain. It was on it's side kickstand and I didn't really give it much time from when I turn the key on and started trying to start it. Maybe I should get on it and have the bike in an upright position and wait a second or two after I turn the key on before I hit the starter.

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Re: Locating choke for my 85 LTD GL1200

Postby firstwing85 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:01 am

I also have a LTD and what I do in the cooler weather is turn the key on and wait to hear the fuel pump stop running.
then hit the stater switch, it takes a little more to start when it's cooler but that usually works well for me. :D :D
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Re: Locating choke for my 85 LTD GL1200

Postby Ghostrider52005 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:11 am

+1 Turn the key wait till the pump stops and dash lights cycle off then hit the starter. Giving it ANY throttle when starting is a mistake.
The LTD Fi is computer controlled with a fast idle when cold. If working properly wait until the fuel etc lights go out after turning the key on and hit the starter. The bike should start rather quickly and rpms should rise to about 1500 until the bike warms up a bit then drop back to slow idle.
Twisting the throttle on mine or the other three LTDs i know of when starting them practically guarantees a hard cold start.

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Re: Locating choke for my 85 LTD GL1200

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:54 am

When properly tuned, you shouldn't need to touch the throttle on ANY Goldwing of any year when starting, cold or warm. My 1100 and 1500 both started instantly when the starter button was pressed, no touching the throttle at all.

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Re: Locating choke for my 85 LTD GL1200

Postby Ghostrider52005 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:54 am

Wingadmin is correct. Once the pump has pumped up on carbed or FI a cold 1200 should start with a bit of choke on carbed model or just hitting the button on FI with no throttle fiddling to help. Old spark plugs might take a few more turns to heat up and fire on really cold mornings. :)

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Re: Locating choke for my 85 LTD GL1200

Postby fastf » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:31 pm

On my LTD just above the fuel pump is a air pump it works off electric and water from the engine and vacume that is your automatic choke it is also controlled by the computer.You can also use carb or throttle body cleaner they do get carboned up sometime.Take in mine there is one pretty good size vacume hose connected to it check for cracks you will have to fabricate one that will work honda does not carry those hoses any more.

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Re: Locating choke for my 85 LTD GL1200

Postby fastf » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:54 am

Oh if you want to see what I am talking about take the cover off the air pump and unbolt it. There is a black cover with four screws holding it on take it off and you will see a type of butterfly valve and points that are worked by vacume,water,and electricty from the computer on the bike.As far and turning on the bike and letting the fuel pump do it's stuff all it does is pressurize the fuel system thats all on a carb model you have a float inside the carb to draw from on the fuel injected everything has to be pressurized before it starts.As far as a diesel engine you have a glow plug to heat the fuel before it ignites the fuel or warms it up before it combusted in the engine.Diesel engines do not have spark plugs they use combustion to ignite their fuel.Getting back to the LTD when you turn the switch on it sends electricty to the points inside the air pump causing the contact points to close the butterfly valve to close for a moment with water from the engine and vacume the computer controls the idel speed until the bikes temp reaches a certain temp and the idle drops down to the right idel speed.




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