gl 1200 i starer remove


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gl 1200 i starer remove

Postby ronscycle1 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:44 pm



I need to take my starter off ,ive heard about three diff ways to do it ,not sure whos right ?
can ya help me thx Ron



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Re: gl 1200 i starer remove

Postby virgilmobile » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:48 pm

Nope,can't help.Try all 3 starting with the easiest.One says wiggle into the right spot and it will come out.I separated the head from the motor,another has you removing the exhaust.Search"how to remove a gl1200 starter"and see what pops up.

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Re: gl 1200 i starer remove

Postby Ghostrider52005 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:23 am

Drop the pipes from the heads on that side. Its tight but gives you enough room to get it out and in. :)

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Re: gl 1200 i starer remove

Postby ronscycle1 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:45 pm

on my 1987 gl 1200i when i take the starter off will the sprocket,that the starter fits in, get out of place on the inside of the motor? and also still not sure how to get starter off ,some say take ex off ,gearshift,floorboards, ex stud . so im really not sure what to do ? but mainly i need to know

that the gear will move or not ,ive read that on the 87 model they wont ?
Thx Ron

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Re: gl 1200 i starer remove

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:19 pm

The sprocket stays inside on the chain.yes it moves out of place if the bike is on the center stand.put the bike on the side stand to let it hang back center and the starter will wiggle back in.

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Re: gl 1200 i starer remove

Postby ronscycle1 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:13 pm

so many diff answers dont know who to believe

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Re: gl 1200 i starer remove

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:09 am

There are so many answers because there are so many variables.
Everybody is right(for their application)
What works on one year may not work on another.
Sometimes it's just trial and error.Tap into your mechanical skills.
As long as you have a basic understanding of how it works,negotiating the details is just a band-aid away.
Keep us up to date of what worked for you on your bike and take pictures.
We like pictures... :D

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Re: gl 1200 i starer remove

Postby Ghostrider52005 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:18 am

My son in law has had his 84s starter out three times by dropping the header pipes from the heads, bike standing straight up and removing and reinstalling it. It takes a bit of fishing around but the starter will go back in either standing straight out or on its side stand.
It will not "fall into the engine" there is a boss in the case that prevents that from happening. :)

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Re: gl 1200 i starer remove

Postby Gkopriva » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:49 am

Thanks for that update -- I'm taking my starter out this weekend -- an '84 A, and was hoping to leave it on the center stand -- also hoping not to have to remove the exhaust pipes but if need be ....

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Re: gl 1200 i starer remove

Postby Ghostrider52005 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:57 pm

Son in law takes his off and on while on a bike lift standing straight up though on side stand back in might make it a bit easier. He normally just drops the pipes from the heads and loosens a bolt or two so the exhaust will move slightly. Doenst take it off entirely. Ive watched him havent had mine off myself though the wifes bike is next up for it.

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Re: gl 1200 i starer remove

Postby Gkopriva » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:23 am

Ghostrider -- I take it there are no gaskets to worry about on the exhaust.

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Re: gl 1200 i starer remove

Postby Phunnybone » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:18 am

Gaskets for exhaust header http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-GOLDWING-GL1000-GL1100-GL1200-EXHAUST-GASKETS-/380485135694?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5896ae6d4e&vxp=mtr in FL, so shipping time shouldn't be too long. There's also a gasket between the header pipe and the muffler - gonna try and use existing on mine as they're about $12 each at local dealer.

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Re: gl 1200 i starer remove

Postby Phunnybone » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:52 pm

My PO added a lot of chrome things - so the take the starter apart without dropping exhaust headers method did not work for me.

So, I removed the lower fairing (part with cornering light).
Next I had to remove the chrome engine guard/footboard.

Engine Guard
Engine Guard


Then I loosened the two muffler bolts.

Two muffler bolts go in the holes.
Two muffler bolts go in the holes.


When I removed the nuts for the exhaust header, one bolt came out with it, but I had to remove the second one with channel lock pliers in order to get the starter out.

Bolt I had to remove was the back right one.
Bolt I had to remove was the back right one.



Starter is out and now I get to try and follow instructions to rebuild it. All of this took me about 30 to 45 minutes to figure out what needed to be removed and how to remove it.

The starter for the baby wing ('83 GL650i) took all of 5 minutes to take out.

I did use a bit of PB to soak the exhaust head nuts and the long screws on both starters. Then I used a pair of vice grips near (but not on) the threads to loosen them as the phillips head at the other end would probable strip if I tried to unscrew them like normal screws.

Debating on whether to rebuild them both myself or take the easy way out and take them to a starter shop.

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Re: gl 1200 i starer remove

Postby Ghostrider52005 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:24 am

while the exhaust is dropped down where you can see you might just for giggles take a flashlight and check the crossover between the exhaust for rusting out pinholes etc. Mine ltd son in laws 84 I and a lot of other wings we have worked on get a good case of termites there. Ive seen some folks cut that section out and patch each pipe if the cross over was leaking bad. Others have had welded practically a new box around the old one. Still others and that is what mine has waiting to have done when I get time is simply scrap the old exhaust and put on two stock mufflers from a HD street glyde.
Most use the HD stock mufflers because usually the first thing a new HD owner does is put on louder mufflers so there are plenty of stock ones laying around nobody wants ;)
Lack of the crossover wont do anything to change the way the bike runs carbed or FI.
The reason I mention this is I think you have an LTD. Once that crossover starts leaking hot exhaust on its top you will start having vapor lock problems in hot weather on the LTD. Long story short the gas will boil in your tank when you shut down and youll either have to let it sit till it cools or pour water over the side of the tank to stop the boiling so the bike will run. Ask me how I know :lol:




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