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Desiccant for air compressor

Postby Mooseman » Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:39 pm



My 86 gl1200A needs to have the Desiccant replaced in the on board air compressor unit.
Does anyone have a source? Or what are you using as a substitute? How much?
Apparently this stuff came in a measured bottle but is no longer available through the Honda dealer.
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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby Makman » Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:53 pm

Hey, Moose - Great question. I actually asked this one myself earlier tonight in another thread, so I'm hopeful we can get an answer on this one. I've got an '86 GL1200A myself, and since I'm thinking seriously of upgrading to the Progressive rear shocks (which can operate at Much higher pressure), it's something that interests me, too. I'll be watching, too. 8-)

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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby Mooseman » Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:58 pm

Makman,
I just did a web search and the stuff is out there. But their are diffrent types. So I guess it's just finding out the type of Desiccant and the amount used.
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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby John R » Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:44 pm

You can dry the stuff you already have by putting it in the oven and heat it 150-200 degrees until it changes back to it's blue color.
When it gets full of moisture it turns pink.
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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby Mooseman » Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:12 pm

John,
Thanks for the info. Had thought about that. I am sure the desiccant inside is original and looks like Blank, Blank through the site glass :? . I ordered some desiccant to have on hand before I tear into it. That way if the original is toast I'll have back up and no extra down time. Have read where the original stuff has turned to dust or broken up into little pieces instead of beads. It was only $10.00 for the desiccant. Will post the results when I finish.
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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby jeramtoy » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:05 pm

i got tired of looking so i changed mine over to a desiccant air filter you can buy a lowes for around 15.00

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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby jeramtoy » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:07 pm

sorry you,ll find it in the tool dept, by the air compressor

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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby Mooseman » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:32 pm

jeramtoy,
I saw the air compressor filters when I did my web search. Did you just plumb it in replacing the Honda dryer or add it to what's already there? Was it hard to find adapters and fittings?
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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby jeramtoy » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:07 pm

i replaced the honda one with the one fron lowes had to replumb it had to use some engineeing and make my own fittings but it was worth it

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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby Makman » Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:48 pm

Mooseman - again, thanks for your input elsewhere. Let us know what happens here, if you would, as I'm in line for new Progressive 416's, I think, and have similar concerns about the air support system, too.

Maybe Jeramtoy can give us a couple of ideas about his re-plumb, and maybe even a couple of Pix? Wanted to suggest you consider someone that has Flare fittings for your re-plumb, if you attempt it. You'll get positive connections that should be vibration free, too. Some of the hardware stores do have them around here, then there's possibly Lowes or the Depot, too. I've had good luck at a local Fuel Oil supplier (oil burners, parts, etc) for this type of thing myself. Just my 2¢ worth & trying to help.

Good luck, thanks again, and keep us posted if you can.

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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby actionpack » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:04 pm

don't understand this subject , is it the filter for the compresser or is there a dryer in there to
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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:29 am

There is a dessicant, which acts as a dryer, so that you don't pump moist air into your shocks and cause them to corrode from the inside.

The dessicant (I assume is silica gel, but never bothered to check) can be taken out, baked in a low temperature oven for a while (preferably when your wife is not home), and reinstalled.

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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby actionpack » Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:26 pm

actionpack wrote:don't understand this subject , is it the filter for the compresser or is there a dryer in there to
ok thanks for the info
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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby Mooseman » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:20 pm

Well I got the Desiccant changed. This is my experience on the deal. I found that the compressor and desiccant container were not easy to get out. Held in place by two rubber nubs that stick through the faring on the inside near the instrument cluster. Well you can see one but not the other. Had to remove the instrument trim piece to get to it. This involved removing the windshield. Got everything out and replaced the desiccant with some I got off e-bay. Turned out I was able to rejuvenate my old desiccant by putting it in the oven on a pie sheet for 45 minutes at 200 degrees. Came out a beautiful blue color. Put it in a couple of zip lock bags and stored away for future use. Putting the compressor and desiccant container back where it came from was a real pain in the A$%. Getting those rubber nubs started and then pulling them back through, Oh My! Then there is a drain hose that connects to the faring vent right above this unit. Anyway it’s all done for awhile.
The desiccant container holds 1/3 cup of desiccant. Also found out you can order desiccant for a GL1500 for about $7.50. P# 527A2-MN5-003 Not sure of the volume though.
Hope your hands are smaller than mine.
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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby actionpack » Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:55 am

Mooseman wrote:Well I got the Desiccant changed. This is my experience on the deal. I found that the compressor and desiccant container were not easy to get out. Held in place by two rubber nubs that stick through the faring on the inside near the instrument cluster. Well you can see one but not the other. Had to remove the instrument trim piece to get to it. This involved removing the windshield. Got everything out and replaced the desiccant with some I got off e-bay. Turned out I was able to rejuvenate my old desiccant by putting it in the oven on a pie sheet for 45 minutes at 200 degrees. Came out a beautiful blue color. Put it in a couple of zip lock bags and stored away for future use. Putting the compressor and desiccant container back where it came from was a real pain in the A$%. Getting those rubber nubs started and then pulling them back through, Oh My! Then there is a drain hose that connects to the faring vent right above this unit. Anyway it’s all done for awhile.
The desiccant container holds 1/3 cup of desiccant. Also found out you can order desiccant for a GL1500 for about $7.50. P# 527A2-MN5-003 Not sure of the volume though.
Hope your hands are smaller than mine.
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that sounds like a pain in the arse type job , and my hand arent small , guess i mite as well get busy , looks like i got a job ahead of me , thanks for the info
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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby fatfenders » Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:50 pm

I've, been putting it off too, :? but this project is in the very near future.

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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby actionpack » Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:19 pm

man i love my wing , but seem like evrything that needs to be done is a big job , i use to love wrenching , now not so much , :mrgreen:
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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby tricky » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:08 am

If you don't like fixing then a 25 year old bike is not for you unless of course you have lot's of money and you can find a mechanic to work on the bike. :D
The part that gets me at 69 years old is trying to get back up of the ground after the fixing :)

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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby Mooseman » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:47 am

tricky,
Right on, I feel like a flondering moose myself when I roll around and find a position to get myself off the floor. I have now dwelled into the carbs. Parts is parts right? Not! Just hope I get the puzzle back together before the sun comes back out. Finished cleaning #2 & #4. Randakk's kit should be here today. Put them back together and then do 1 & 3. Kind of like working on the airplane. Don't be in a huarry, check and recheck....
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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby actionpack » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:25 pm

tricky wrote:If you don't like fixing then a 25 year old bike is not for you unless of course you have lot's of money and you can find a mechanic to work on the bike. :D
The part that gets me at 69 years old is trying to get back up of the ground after the fixing :)
just maybe u are in better health then i am at 63 , i'm glad u can still face these problems down , i own a 25 yr old bike cause it was all i could afford , dirt poor is close to where i live , i'v wheched all my life , and getting sick of it ,
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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby tricky » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:57 pm

I own a 1200 and have had it since new. If I could afford it I am not sure I would want a new bike.
I worked in a steel mill till I was 63, now retired, I enjoy working on my bike, I am not rich, I have had my health problems too, who doesn't after a lifetime of work and a back operation which left me unable to walk very far or do much very heavy work. I developed a positive mental attitude toward life... it sure helps after my hands stiffen up with arthritis after working on the bike or anything else. :)
I am not poor... broke maybe but that how I look at it. :D
You have to enjoy doing what your doing, it cant be a chore, if it is then you need to find the thing that gives you the most enjoyment and do that.

The air compressor job isn't that bad, a little awkward to get at, I don't bother trying to get the two locating nubs back into place, it sits in there quite snug.
Go to the link I provided it will help.

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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby tricky » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:11 pm

Mooseman wrote:tricky,
Right on, I feel like a flondering moose myself when I roll around and find a position to get myself off the floor. I have now dwelled into the carbs. Parts is parts right? Not! Just hope I get the puzzle back together before the sun comes back out. Finished cleaning #2 & #4. Randakk's kit should be here today. Put them back together and then do 1 & 3. Kind of like working on the airplane. Don't be in a huarry, check and recheck....
Mooseman


I have never needed to work on the carbs, I have either used a dose of seafoam or marvel mystery oil in the gas tanks every now and then.
I did myself a favor and purchased 4 interlocking foam pads, it sure helps the knees when you finally get turned in the right position to get back up ;)
I wish I could afford one of those bike lifts, not the small one, the type they have in the bike shops, but the amount of work the wing demands doesn't really justify the purchase even if I could, It wouldn't be of any help doing the air compressor though would it :)

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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:21 pm

I'd love one of those big table bike lifts as well...but I'd have to park my truck outside in the rain and snow all year then, and I just can't have that. :)

My next house will have a four or five car garage I think. Speaking of that, I need to go buy a lottery ticket...

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Re: Desiccant for air compressor

Postby actionpack » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:43 pm

tricky wrote:I own a 1200 and have had it since new. If I could afford it I am not sure I would want a new bike.
I worked in a steel mill till I was 63, now retired, I enjoy working on my bike, I am not rich, I have had my health problems too, who doesn't after a lifetime of work and a back operation which left me unable to walk very far or do much very heavy work. I developed a positive mental attitude toward life... it sure helps after my hands stiffen up with arthritis after working on the bike or anything else. :)
I am not poor... broke maybe but that how I look at it. :D
You have to enjoy doing what your doing, it cant be a chore, if it is then you need to find the thing that gives you the most enjoyment and do that.

The air compressor job isn't that bad, a little awkward to get at, I don't bother trying to get the two locating nubs back into place, it sits in there quite snug.
Go to the link I provided it will help.
i hear ya tricky , it just burns me that these people who design these things are paid well for there services and then they come up with dumb ideas on a design , theres no way any thing should be this difficult to change out , the newer wings are worsts then the 25 yr old 1's , i'm not trying to lock horns with ya , i'm sure u remeber old school , and back then things were thought out befor they were designed , now days they just put a part in where theres a empty space and call it good , like i said i love my wing , but the people who designed it needs to be horse whipped , was talking to a friend today and he bought a newer jeep , went to change oil filter and could'nt find it , when he did he about blew a fuse , they buried it , said it took him 4 hr to change the oil and filter , this is why i'm sick of wheching , just wineing , need some cheese


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