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stator check

Postby maxxx1000 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:14 pm



hello lots of good info here. im a old z1, kz guy been out of it for about 15 years but i just got a 86 interstate and have been finding 1 problem after another with it.. my question is can you unplug the reg and test the 3 yellow wires at the plug and get the correct readings? i have soldered the plug at the battery and would rather not have to redo it since i am lazy !! my readings are 2v 24v 24v at 3000 rpm. is it really cheaper to get the conversion alt and not try to replace the stator?? thanks for any input?



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Re: stator check

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:31 pm

Yes, you can unplug the regulator and test the three yellow wires there. Beware of the voltage there - there's enough AC voltage to seriously injure or even kill you - treat it like a live household outlet wire.

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Re: stator check

Postby maxxx1000 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:41 pm

WingAdmin wrote:Yes, you can unplug the regulator and test the three yellow wires there. Beware of the voltage there - there's enough AC voltage to seriously injure or even kill you - treat it like a live household outlet wire.


ok thx the stator is bad. if i replace the stator i only have to get is a stator and a cover gasket right? or are there surprises in store for me?

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Re: stator check

Postby firstwing85 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:19 pm

I did the stator in my bike last year and you are right, all you will need is the stator and the cover gasket.
I did also replace my Reg/Rectifier as it was toast to.

I bought a factory stator from a friend of mine and when I opened up my engine then realized that my LTD has a larger stator then the Carb motors so I had to order another stator which is for the fuel Injected motor.
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Re: stator check

Postby DaveClayton » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:38 pm

I just went through what you are about to. Mine is a 1200 LTD and I decided to replace the stator instead of putting on an alternator. Got it from http://www.rmstator.com as well as a new voltage regulator. If you have the tools it is not that difficult a job especially if you do some research and watch the videos. One thing though, remember to connect ALL the electrical connectors prior to lifting the engine back up into place. I missed one on mine that is on top and center of the engine and once the engine is back into place it is VERY difficult to put that connector back on. If you have the time and the tools and the know how to tackle this job, you probably have the know how to make your own mounts etc. for the external alternator mounting. If my new stator does not last, and I have heard some don't, I would definately go the external mount next time. Also, you mentioned your yellow wires were soldered at the battery connector but not at the voltage regulator. They should be soldered there as well as I have seen burnt connectors in both places. A lot of guys even solder the rest of the wires at the voltage regulator but I have never seen those connectors burn as they do not have that very high voltage going through them. But, there is a frame ground connection behind the voltage regulator that you should probably clean and reconnect as well as the battery to frame ground connection.

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Re: stator check

Postby firstwing85 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:55 pm

I had my plugs at the regulator/rectifier burn up on me so I have now hardwired those plugs too.
I can add some pictures if you want.
so I would highly recommend that you hard-wire those wires as well..

here are a couple of pictures when the plugs burn up.


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Re: stator check

Postby DaveClayton » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:56 pm

Wow....point taken. That is a mess. So I am not going to take the chance and I will now solder those wires as well. Thanks.

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Re: stator check

Postby maxxx1000 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:59 pm

thanks for all the info guys, it will be a few weeks before i do the job but i feel beter about it now.. this bike has never had any maintenance done on it so it needs everything but i think its a great bike and i dont even like riding my hd sport anymore after getting some miles on the goldwing..

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Re: stator check

Postby johncarlton1978 » Fri May 03, 2013 4:15 pm

well I am the lucky owner of a gl 1200 with charging problems .I have done voltage and continuity test .The 3 yellow stator wires are soldered together no plug there.so now im trying to determine if stator is bad any help my fellow gold wingers .

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Re: stator check

Postby maxxx1000 » Fri May 03, 2013 7:13 pm

mine had the same problem. but you can unplug the regulator and check the 3 yellow wires there. same wires....

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Re: stator check

Postby DaveClayton » Fri May 03, 2013 10:58 pm

I would be checking the voltage regulator first......if it fails ANY of the tests the manual describes it is hooped. While you have it disconnected you can also get at the three yellow wires and check the stator as well. I suspect a failing stator may overload or spike the voltage regulator so they both may be faulty. If it turns out the stator checks out OK and the fault is in the voltage regulator you should start jumping up and down with joy as it is a much easier and cheaper fix......

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Re: stator check

Postby highplainsbubba » Mon May 06, 2013 9:20 am

I had to do a stator replacement and got the cheapest I could find. It was supposed to be a higher output stator and looking at it, it appears to be made overseas. I went to put it on, and the internal diameter was a hair too small. I took a sanding wheel, knocked off the roughness on the steel core, and it went into place. It is working well and puts out up to 14 volts. I added a voltmeter and amp meter to the panel and now I can keep tabs on it real time. Those are available on Ebay.

When you solder your yellow wires, you can add a pigtail and terminate it with a butt splice to have an instant test point for checking the voltage next time. (And there will probably be a next time!)
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Adding test points to your yellow wires
Adding test points to your yellow wires

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Re: stator check

Postby maxxx1000 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:48 am

just got the goldwing back together, that was fun (not). stator turned into stator, regulator and waterpump and belt tensioners, belts. solder wires. this bike must be a female it fought me the whole way. damn i need a ride! thx for all the good info..




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