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New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby SARoss » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:46 am



I have been lurking around this site for a while and based on what I have read I decided to purchase a GL1200. I will go out and pick it up today :D . Its a 1987 GL1200. It has 37k miles on it. It has been kept in a garage. The bike was last registered in 2007. Owner states he started it last year but did not ride it. The bike as a engine oil leak. It looks like it is on the left side coming from the area between the engine and transmission. The other issue is the owner said there is a broken metal fuel hose on the right side of the engine. My questions are:

Do you think the oil and gas leaks would be relatively easy to repair?
Any help on how to do this?
I want to go through this bike top to bottom and ensure that it is safe and in good working order before I am stuck on some back road somewhere. Where should I start? What should I pay special attention to?
Is there a priority of items I should look at?

I will post up-dates and photos of the build....

Thanks in advance for your help...



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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby fatfenders » Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:40 am

Is this carb or fuel inj.? Close exam will reveal your fuel leak. Possibly your oil leak may be shifter seal or starter o-ring? Other suggestions if you are unsure would be to look into with the PO as to when your timing belts were last replaced as a failure of these could lead to a costly repair internally, brakes, tires as this is an obvious concern just to name a few things to look at. Good luck and welcome to this site as GS puts a lot of effort here.. and get yourself a manual! There are also "how tos" to assist you here.
Others much more knowledgeable will chime in too.

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:51 am

Unlike a lot of motorcycle and car engines, the engine and transmission are in the same case. If it's coming from the left side, it's a good bet (as mentioned here) that it's the shifter seal, which is relatively easy to replace.

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby tricky » Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:57 am

Left side front could also be the water pump seals.

There is a small hole visible underneath the engine where the water pump is located.

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby SARoss » Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:51 pm

Thank you all... Well I'm off to pick it up... keep the suggestions coming...

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby SCSDK » Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:53 am

I would suggest that you for starters change the engineoil, coolant, brake and clutchfluids, and oil and airfilters.
Engineoil, coolant, and oilfilter because you never know when it has been done last. Clutch and brakefluids because the are hydroscopic, means they suc up water from the air, causing your brakefluid to boil under breaking = no braking at all!

Oilleak: se above it seems to be reasonable explanations.

Wish you many happy hours riding your Wing and stay upright. :lol: :D
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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby SARoss » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:54 am

Just got it into the garage. The oil leak is not as bad when sitting on the center stand as what it was when leaning to the left side. I will post pictures of my project this weekend.

Stay tuned...

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby SARoss » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:12 pm

Well, Its now in my garage until I can get it up and running. The last photo in the list is where the oil leak is coming from.. I drained all the oil out of the system so as not to upset the wife.. A few things I noticed from the initial cleaning is that it looks like it is pretty good shape except for the gas leak and oil leak. As I drained the oil out of it it smelled like gas.. Is this normal? and do you think I need to drop the engine out to get to this seal?

Please let me know what ya'all think.....
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In the garage....
In the garage....
Left side
Left side
From the bottom of this seal is where the pesky oil leak is originating from..
From the bottom of this seal is where the pesky oil leak is originating from..

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby fatfenders » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:08 pm

I most likely am wrong but you starter has an o-ring where it mates inside, it is to the left of where you are pointing. Just a thought.

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby SARoss » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:25 pm

fatfenders wrote:I most likely am wrong but you starter has an o-ring where it mates inside, it is to the left of where you are pointing. Just a thought.

I dont know. I put a quart of oil in and it started leaking right on the seam just below my finger.... :cry:

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby fatfenders » Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:34 am

Your Wing appears to be in very nice shape and well worth the repair whatever route you decide to go.

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:43 am

You might want to try snugging the bolts holding the rear cover in place right around that leak...but that could potentially only delay the inevitable: the gasket needs to be replaced on the rear cover, and unfortunately, the engine needs to come out for that.

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby SARoss » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:38 am

WingAdmin wrote:You might want to try snugging the bolts holding the rear cover in place right around that leak...but that could potentially only delay the inevitable: the gasket needs to be replaced on the rear cover, and unfortunately, the engine needs to come out for that.



Thank you Sir.. Looking at the bolts that hold that cover on appear that they attempted at one time to tighten them... Well.. I guess the next photos to appear will be me removing the engine....

Do you know if there is much of a difference between a 1986 GL1200 I parts manual and a 1985 parts manual?

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby tricky » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:29 pm

There are some differences

The 86 rear case gasket is 11394-ML8-000 Gasket, RR. Case

The 85 is 11394-MG9-306 Gasket, RR. Case

86 Rear case 11311-ML8-000 Case, RR.

85 Rear case 11311-MG9-680 Case, RR (aspy & Interstate)

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby SARoss » Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:18 pm

tricky wrote:There are some differences

The 86 rear case gasket is 11394-ML8-000 Gasket, RR. Case

The 85 is 11394-MG9-306 Gasket, RR. Case

86 Rear case 11311-ML8-000 Case, RR.

85 Rear case 11311-MG9-680 Case, RR (aspy & Interstate)



Thank you... Tomorrow I will start the project... I know for a fact that I can take it apart.... not so sure about getting it back together though.....

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby SARoss » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:05 pm

Any hazard to leaving the engine dry of radiator fluid for a period of time?

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby tricky » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:06 pm

Not as long as it isnt running.

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby SARoss » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:32 am

tricky wrote:Not as long as it isnt running.


Bad things would happen....Very bad things.....

Any real problems experienced by anyone obtaining parts for these classic bikes?

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby tricky » Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:23 am

I think that depends on which parts you looking for.

Anything I have wanted so far (25 years) I have managed to find at my local Honda dealer, (gaskets and such) there is a supply of used parts on Fleabay usually perfectly good running bikes stripped down bring a lot more money.

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby Mooseman » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:44 am

SARoss,
Nice looking bike. When wondering if you will get it back together. Take lots of pictures. I just redid my carbs and it sure helped when putting all the vacuum lines back to where they came from. You will be pleased when it's all done. Plus if you run into any snags, you'll find lots of great help here, I have. Keep us posted on that progress.
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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby SARoss » Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:22 am

Thanks Mooseman!

The engine will come out next week. I hope to have it up and running by the 10th of May. :D

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby SARoss » Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:28 am

Well, While I have this this in pieces, anyone have a good option for a radio I can put in it? I was also looking at the rear tail light, I want my bike to standout and be seen at night, any ideas on how to make my bike more visible?

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby SARoss » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:55 am

Also, any tricks to getting this off its center stand? Is the stand locked once it is engaged? Its on it center stand now and it must like it there because it seems it is locked in this position..... :oops:

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby nama » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:11 am

Hi
I am a new owner of a 1984 GL1200 Interstate.Also a new member.I don't think there is a lock on the center stand .All I do is sit on the bike make sure I have good balance and push forward with all my strength and weight.
Lots of luck
Dave
NOTE: I did read something about keeping lot of grease on the center stand

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Re: New member and New GL1200 owner.. Need a little help..

Postby Mooseman » Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:43 am

I have trouble rocking my bike off the center stand sometimes. I am 6-4 and about 240. Go figure. I have found that if I stand on the right side and push it off the center stand it comes right off. Just don't loose balance it could be an ugly afair. I always parked mine on the center stand in the garage and then use the side stand the rest of the day. If I can i'll use the centersand when parking over night. Saves that puff of blue smoke on start up. It's a Goldwing thing.
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