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stator life?

Postby jtimgrant » Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:28 pm



Speaking to a motorcycle mechanic today the subject of Gl1200 stators came up. I asked him what the average stator life was and he replied 30,000 to 40,000 miles. How factual is this? Anyone got more miles on a stator? If this is true I better polish up my wrenches. I know my stator has over 25,000 miles on it but probably closer to 35,000. It was replaced under warranty but the PO didn't know the miles at replacement.

Repairs done so far from May 2013 @ 79,800 miles:
Replaced timing Belts
Rebuild carbs
Replaced slow air valve
Replaced vacuum hoses
Replaced final drive and driven flange
Replaced air filter
Replaced fuel filter
Replaced wheel bearings
Replaced brake pads
New E3 tires

Stator? Why not?

Tim



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Re: stator life?

Postby Fatwing Chris » Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:05 pm

I put one in my 84 I at about 30 K miles and I bought my 85 A with approx. 20k.It supposedly had had it replaced already .The 84 got written off at about 60k and I traded in the 85 with a few more K than that on it and the stators were still good.The replacements were supposed to be a lot better.
If I'da known it would last this long,I'da taken better care of it.
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Re: stator life?

Postby jtimgrant » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:21 pm

Thanks Fatwing Chris. I have to believe they will last longer than 30 or 40 k. If not then that means pulling the engine every 2 years in my case.

t

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Re: stator life?

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:32 am

The OEM stator was designed to last the life of the bike.Period.
If the rest of the system is kept in OEM condition.
Unfortunately OEM wiring dosen't last long in the real world.
The stator has no moving parts to wear out.
I truly believe that deterioration in the electrical system or overloading it is the root cause of stress failiture .
I've had many wings,the last 1200 had well over 150k miles.All stock and electrically repaired.
I never once had a bad stator.
All it takes is one corroded wire to start the overload process.

Just my opinion

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Re: stator life?

Postby jtimgrant » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:42 am

Virgilmobile,

I like your opinion. :lol:

t

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Re: stator life?

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:28 pm

I've also heard theories of poor oil circulation coupled with infrequent oil changes causing the acidic buildup in the oil to attack the shellac insulation on the stator windings, eventually causing a short and failure.

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Re: stator life?

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:58 pm

And the miles do pile on quick.
I just noticed I added a bit over 4k just toolin round town the last few months.
Time for a oil change for me too :lol:

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Re: stator life?

Postby skier » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:50 pm

I agree with Virgilmobile. The stator should last the life of the bike, if a deteriorating electrical system doesn't stress it. My '87 1200I has 113k miles and the original stator is still going strong. And I do change oil regularly to minimize the acidic bath that the stator lives in.

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Re: stator life?

Postby Fatwing Chris » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:33 am

Lifetime of the bike?Doubtful.I bought my 84 from the original owner that was a diehard as far as service goes and I was very regular with services.Wiring/connections all looked good when it went(even the plug in frt of the battery).It was removed when the new stator went in and my 85 for removed also later.When I went to buy what I needed from a Honda dealer that does the majority of Wing work around my area he asked me the mileage.I said 50k klm's(approx. 30k miles)and he said that's about right for the original stator.Just saying.
If I'da known it would last this long,I'da taken better care of it.
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Re: stator life?

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:56 pm

Lifetime of the bike?Doubtful


OK Thomas...probably just the luck of the draw.
Over the last 30 years,I have owned many wings...Most had well over 60k miles with the original stator.
Not the oldest one but my 83 had just over 150k miles on it..Other than the electrical modifications,it was all OEM...Including the stator,regulator,and ignition system...

What I found on each one was a deterioration in the electrical system...
Even good maintenance does not fix or even address these problems till it's too late...
I always took a pre-emptive stance for these bikes...The following pictures show what I find...

From the factory,the system works perfectly...Unfortunately,Honda did not seal the copper from the elements...Even in a crimped connector,Nature takes it's toll on copper wires...




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