A time delay in R turn signal?


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A time delay in R turn signal?

Postby drtimm@att.net » Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:21 pm



I have a 85, 1200 interstate. Needing help in correcting the time delay when I actually turn on my right turn signal and the time that the signal goes on. This of course is a safety issue while operating on the highways. I'm talking a 10- 15 sec. delay. Once it starts it works fine, and after operation the bike on a ride for a while the time delay shortens. Has anybody else out there experienced this problem. And if so what is going on, and what is the fix?

Any insight would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks,
Dennis , Lincoln, CA



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Re: A time delay in R turn signal?

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:11 pm

First a question...is the "delay" normal on a left turn?
If it is...there is a 'position sensor' bolted to the bottom of the triple tree.
It's kinda like a volume control.In the center position the output voltage is about half the feed voltage.It has 3 wires.A ground,a stable supply voltage and a variable output voltage as the arm is moved.
There is a bit of adjustment allowed there if the left turn and right turn time out is a little different.
As you move the handle bars from full left to right,the voltage should swing smoothly with it.

I found on mine that the output voltage was very erratic.Sometimes it worked,sometimes not.
I did replace it to restore operation.
The only other part beyond that is the speed pulse signal and the canceler unit itself.
If the canceler is getting speed pulses and the correct position voltage but still delays,replace the canceler unit....One of mine had a bulge in the plastic housing...obviously a internal part was bad.

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Re: A time delay in R turn signal?

Postby landisr » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:37 am

VM: I think he means there is a delay between the time he switches the right signal ON, and when it/they actually activate. I'm having a similar problem with my 4-way flashers. Possibly a similar fix? Dirty HB switch contacts?

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Re: A time delay in R turn signal?

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:57 am

Boy do I feel stupid :mrgreen:
Time ON delay not OFF delay.
I'll make another analysis.First suspect is a bad flasher in both cases.There electronic type and 30 years old but a quick test at its terminals would be the confirmation.
And I don't know if the 4 way can be swapped with the turn flasher.
Something in the back of my mind says no,you tried that.

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Re: A time delay in R turn signal?

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:43 pm

Ok,the manual says the flashers are the same...I would first swap them and retest...for both you guys.

If the turn signals still delays,look at the schematic.It shows the test points...The canceler unit actually operates the flasher.The blue/black wire needs to go to zero volts to flash the lights and have 12 volts going to it.

On the 4 way both the lt green/black and pink/white will have 12 volts untill the 4 way switch is turned on then the pink/white should begin to flash...It must also have a good green ground(no volts on it) and 12 volts to it.

On the turn signal,the switches operate the canceler...It has the parts inside that provide the ground side to the flasher unit...As always,if the canceler has a bad ground,it will upset the electronics so test it too.

Voltage tests are a must at the flasher,for both problems...
The turn signal flasher uses the canceler ground to get it going,the 4 way uses the lamps(a load) to get it to flash and the ground.

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Re: A time delay in R turn signal?

Postby landisr » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:54 pm

Oops. I piped in steering you (VM) in the right direction :lol: But commented I'm having a similar problem, but it's on my 1500. :roll: So I will humbly bow out of this and post a new entry on the appropriate board. Sorry. Ron
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Re: A time delay in R turn signal?

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:23 pm

No problem.ill investigate that not too.

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Re: A time delay in R turn signal?

Postby jhngardner367 » Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:26 pm

My '84 gl1200 did the same thing. I found out the switches were corroded/dirty from setting(3 yrs),so I cleaned them with electrical cleaner,and they work fine,now


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