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Another stator question

Postby walden10 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:11 am



My 84 Aspencade has stopped charging. I replaced the stator about a year ago when I found the same symptoms as on the stator test video. So with a sense of deja vu I have tested again today and the reading this time round is around 2v on each wire. I've also found a burnt wire on the regulator end of the wire. If I run the engine and hold one probe on the +ve terminal and the other pressed on to the wires, with the wire squeezed between my finger and the probe it reads between 8-10v. But with just the probe touching the wire on its own its only 2v. Same on the other 2 wires. Has anyone had all 3 windings go before? I've also done the test for output voltage across the 3 wires A-B, B-C and C-A measuring AC Voltage with the meter set at 20v and 200v and they all read between 2v and 4v which if I'm right is pretty darned low! So it looks like its engine out and new stator time again. It'll be the 3rd time I've had the motor out so hopefully should be easier!



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Re: Another stator question

Postby SilverDave » Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:33 am

Just checking the obvious :

- Is your meter reliable on the Ac setting ? ( test on house wiring )
- did you do the test with the stator completely out of the system ?
and which wire on the rect/reg end is fried ? Could it be the rect/reg thats causing the charging problem ?

- Did you do the other two important parts of the 3-part stator test ?
( resistance BETWEEN coils close to 0, and resistance to ground very high )

and before pulling the engine ( again ) you might do the rect/reg test as described in the manual .

I have read that a cranky rect/reg can take down a stator .... and a dying stator can damage a rect/reg .

When I replaced my entire harness with a n Electrical Connections 1200 harness, most of the wires on the rectifier end were also to be "hard-soldered " as well as the notorious "3-yellow" wires.
see :
http://www.electricalconnection.com/wir ... charge.htm

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Re: Another stator question

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:37 am

walden10 wrote:My 84 Aspencade has stopped charging. I replaced the stator about a year ago when I found the same symptoms as on the stator test video. So with a sense of deja vu I have tested again today and the reading this time round is around 2v on each wire. I've also found a burnt wire on the regulator end of the wire. If I run the engine and hold one probe on the +ve terminal and the other pressed on to the wires, with the wire squeezed between my finger and the probe it reads between 8-10v. But with just the probe touching the wire on its own its only 2v. Same on the other 2 wires. Has anyone had all 3 windings go before? I've also done the test for output voltage across the 3 wires A-B, B-C and C-A measuring AC Voltage with the meter set at 20v and 200v and they all read between 2v and 4v which if I'm right is pretty darned low! So it looks like its engine out and new stator time again. It'll be the 3rd time I've had the motor out so hopefully should be easier!


If the A-B, B-C, C-A test (with stator disconnected from regulator) is 2-4VAC on each pair, then yes, you can assume the stator has suffered a catastrophic failure. It is a bit odd (but not entirely unheard of) to lose them all at once like this - but you might want to check the condition of the wire leading down to the stator just to be sure.

I would honestly be thinking about a Poorboy conversion at this point. I'd hate to ride around with a stator that I can't trust, that I would expect to fail at any time.

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Re: Another stator question

Postby walden10 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:39 am

I've just been back out to her and checked, resistance to ground is ok, resistance between coils is 1.6 across all 3 wires and the regulator test comes out as it should. Me thinks I know what my day will entail tomorrow!

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Re: Another stator question

Postby walden10 » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:48 am

Now far be it for me to brag......but I now have one 1200 GW motor sitting on my drive after an hours wrenching!!

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Re: Another stator question

Postby walden10 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:20 am

This is what I found today when I opened her up!


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Re: Another stator question

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:26 am

Eeewwwww.
Smokin.
Overloaded?
Corroded connections?

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Re: Another stator question

Postby walden10 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:06 am

The connection had burnt at the regulator end but the r/r test ok. Now to see if I can get the motor back in as quick as it came out :roll:

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Re: Another stator question

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:53 am

Keep us posted and remember NO SILICONE sealer...EVER




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