1985 Goldwing stalls


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Rhodegold
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1985 Goldwing stalls

Postby Rhodegold » Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:28 pm



I have a 1985 Honda Goldwing GL1200 Interstate,when I first start the bike up it stalls within first ten minutes. After restarting runs fine.



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Re: 1985 Goldwing stalls

Postby virgilmobile » Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:43 pm

Lack of fuel or spark.Get ready...when it dies,pop one plug wire off and stick a spare plug on it.see if it lost spark...If theres spark,its a fuel problem...eg... plugged filter or a pump problem...if its "no spark" Wiggle the kill switch,check for corrosion on the pulse coil. Plug to the left of the battery.

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Re: 1985 Goldwing stalls

Postby HawkeyeGL1200 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:56 am

Rhodegold wrote:I have a 1985 Honda Goldwing GL1200 Interstate,when I first start the bike up it stalls within first ten minutes. After restarting runs fine.


How much "trouble" is it to get the engine to start again after it has stalled? Are you choking the engine for the initial start and do you choke it again to restart it?

I'm also curious as to the engine idle speed after it warms up. I set the idle on my 1200 to about 1000 RPMs. When cold, I pull the choke in and let it idle at 1500-1800 RPMs while I'm putting helmet and jacket on, then ride off to the first stop sign (about 2 miles) before I push the choke off again. I should tell you my choke sticks, and if I recall correctly, the choke should automatically release while riding on the 1200... Is it possible the engine needs more "choke time" than it is getting to get warm enough to ride? You don't say if the engine stalls under load (while riding) of if it stalls when you stop.

It is very hard to figure out problems standing in front of some motorcycles... and impossible without enough information from afar. Any additional information you can offer will certainly help. Virgilmobile knows a lot more about these machines than me, so I would definitely check what He suggested first. After you do some checks, please provide as much additional information as you can to either let the forum know your trouble is fixed, or to help the group help you determine what to try next.
I am wrong as often as I am right concerning what is wrong with someone else' motorcycle without having seen the machine in person. Guessing with limited information, as to the source of the trouble, is sketchy at best.

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Re: 1985 Goldwing stalls

Postby SidAbma » Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:54 pm

My 85 LTD doesn't like to go fast. (I know, it is getting old) If I get out on the highway for even 5 or 10 miles and am doing 70 mph or more, it doesn't stall out completely but it is losing power to where sometimes I have to stop and give it a 10 minute vacation. As I am rolling to a stop it often does a lot of complaining - popping out of the exhaust. If I drive at 55 or 60 mph it will go and go, no problem. Any thoughts?

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Re: 1985 Goldwing stalls

Postby Right Winger » Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:26 am

The first thing that comes to mind is the pulse generators :idea:

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Re: 1985 Goldwing stalls

Postby HawkeyeGL1200 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:10 am

SidAbma wrote:My 85 LTD doesn't like to go fast. (I know, it is getting old) If I get out on the highway for even 5 or 10 miles and am doing 70 mph or more, it doesn't stall out completely but it is losing power to where sometimes I have to stop and give it a 10 minute vacation. As I am rolling to a stop it often does a lot of complaining - popping out of the exhaust. If I drive at 55 or 60 mph it will go and go, no problem. Any thoughts?


If it were me, I'd pull fuel filter, air filter(to make sure they're both clean), spark plugs and have a look at all of the above. I suspect that your fuel system is either blocked or your fuel pump is getting ready to give up the ghost. Pulling the plugs lets you read them to see if they all look about the same in color and if they all have the correct fuel / air mixture getting into the combustion chamber. If you have a shop manual, there's generally pictures of what "good plugs" should look like. A uniform tan-brown color is what you want...not white-ish or black...

These are the things I would do if I bought a used motorcycle: Change fuel filter. Replace fuel lines. Change Air filter. Change oil and oil filter. Change spark plugs. Check plug boot resisters (if equipped) for tightness and make sure they are installed. Check or flush brake fluid/clutch fluid (if hydraulic clutch). Clean electrical connections (battery terminals, grounds, inspect connectors). Dump some fuel system cleaner in the fuel tank with some fresh gas (if the bike is in decent running condition) and go for a ride (shake-down cruise if you will) so I can hear, feel, smell how the bike runs. Additional maintenance items will reveal themselves during the first ride or two... of course, tire condition, inflation pressure, overall condition of nuts, bolts and tightness of same has to be considered....

If your fuel system is working correctly, the next thing I'd check is carb balance at idle...

Let the group know what you've done and what you've discovered.
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Re: 1985 Goldwing stalls

Postby SidAbma » Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:41 pm

Changed the plugs. They were all identical in color. next step is the fuel pump. My mechanic says it's simple to change. "Cane we find one".
Yes it's an 85. Any help out there for a 1985 LMD fuel pump?

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Re: 1985 Goldwing stalls

Postby HawkeyeGL1200 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:13 am

You can find "new old stock" fuel pumps. I bought an electric fuel pump off Ebay. I keep it in the left saddle bag, should mine give out. Several other people have posted using a car fuel pump (can't remember if it is a Prelude or something like it) to replace the OEM pump. It all depends on how handy you are, and how original you want to keep your bike.
I am wrong as often as I am right concerning what is wrong with someone else' motorcycle without having seen the machine in person. Guessing with limited information, as to the source of the trouble, is sketchy at best.

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Re: 1985 Goldwing stalls

Postby Wilecoyote » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:42 pm

I have a similar problem with my 85 aspencade. Found it best to make sure not to start riding until I get one bar on my temp gauge. I keep an multimeter in my trunk for the day it won't come back to life. When I do try just restarting with the starter it sometimes will backfire. I have to turn it all the way off with key and it helps to leave it sit for a minute. Then it starts and runs like it should.

Ignition switch does make sense but while mine only does it when I don't warm it up I am still a little stumped to an exact cause

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Re: 1985 Goldwing stalls

Postby SidAbma » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:36 am

To all that have an 85 or 86 GoldWing and need a fuel pump for your fuel injected engine follow this link.
http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-g ... -pump.html

I had found a used one on EBay for $250.00 and when I went back to buy it it was gone. Now I can get a new one for less than 1/2 that amount.

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Re: 1985 Goldwing stalls

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:22 pm

I would guess fuel, but before swapping parts, I would try running it with the fuel tank filler cap cracked open and see if it still happens. If not, it could be that the filler cap vents are clogged, or it could be a weakening fuel pump that can't keep up with the demand when the cap is in place causing a bit of vacuum resistance.

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Re: 1985 Goldwing stalls

Postby SidAbma » Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:55 pm

I will try that. I have the fuel pump but have not had a chance yet to change it.

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Re: 1985 Goldwing stalls

Postby Wilecoyote » Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:44 pm

Please correct me if I am wrong if the fuel pump was to quit working in these would the bike shut down all at once? Or would cylinders gradually drain the fuel left in the bowls and slowly die one cylinder at a time. I have switched to reserve On my inline fours as I can feel each cylinder quit sequentially




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