REPLACING STATOR QUESTION


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REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby greenhorn75 » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:39 pm



I HEARD YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THE MOTOR TO REPLACE THE STATOR ON A 84 GL1200 ASPENCADE IS THAT TRUE OR IS THERE AN EASIER WAY OTHER THAN PAYING THE DEALERSHIP $1400.00 TO DO IT,PLEASE HELP THE NEW GUY....



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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby Right Winger » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:09 am

No you heard right you have to remove the engine to replace the stator. There is no easier way or no shortcut :( SORRY . Try knocking your caps lock off PLEASE. Either you have to do it yourself or have it done . It is a lot of work and time consuming I am doing one on my 85 LTD even more work. Most people are intiminated by the thought of removing the engine . But it really isn't that bad

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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby Oldsmores » Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:00 am

Seriously consider doing the Poorboy alternator conversion - easier, cheaper, less likely to fail, and easier to fix if it does.

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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby maestro319 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:57 am

What is a "Poorboy alternator"? Is Poorboy a brand name or...?

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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby SARoss » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:11 am

Based on my experience you do need to remove the engine to have the part replaced. $1400 seems a little steep. I have a 1985 Interstate it has 38k miles on it. I took it in and they are replacing the timing belts, gaskets, stator, spark plugs, carb. re-build, new battery, all new fluids, break system safety check and new control cables all for approx. less than 2200.00

hope this helps.. good luck and let us know how it works out..

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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby Oldsmores » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:18 am

Yikes, I only paid $3000 for my '84 Aspencade with 30K miles on it!
$1400 is a little high, but not outrageous. There's a fair amount of labor involved in pulling the engine, and since most shops get $75 or more for an hour of labor...

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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby Right Winger » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:54 pm

Poorboy conversion is for someone that can do it himself. I could do it to mine . the only thing I have against it is I don't like butchering up my bike. Cutting away the faring frame rigging radiator support eliminating parts (sheese) cutting ears off the alt comprimising the integerty of the machine. If there was an exact replacement kit which didn't include a hatchett i'd think about it .

My bike an 85 LTD with 85k on the clock 25 yrs old . When I replace the stator and it last another 25 yrs and another 85 k , it will be someone elses problem. If you are out on the road where are you going to find a hacked up replacement alternator ? And who is going to take a hacked up alternator in as a core return. And depending where you are, what if there isn't a shop that rebuilds alternators then what ? As said above the Poorboy is not for a poorboy if you can't do it yourself.

What would the labor be if someone would ( individual/shop ) do the job for you . No two jobs turn out the same. And what shop would take on that liability. Risk of being sued. Heck there is a guy right now (among the GW sites) that has attemped this and hooked up something wrong and now has a major wiring problem ! And he claims to be an avid mechanic

Heck if my bike would have had this on it before I bought it . I would'nt have bought it . Another thing to consider resale value. Would you want someone elses hack job ? Not to say you would'nt sell it. but for how much less ? Would you feel safe riding down the road on someone elses hack job ?

For those that want to do it fine. I'm not trying to discourage you but just giving you something else to consider . For you old timers I know its a rap. But for the new comers this is the other side of the alternator conversion thery

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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby maestro319 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:28 pm

Now that's some good info. Thanks WLKRSN. Being a "newby" I don't know any of this stuff, so it's great to hear the pros and cons of whatever job needs to be done on a GoldWing. I, too, have an "older" Wing, '86 Aspencade, and I truly hope nothing that serious EVER goes wrong with it. I really can't afford expensive shop jobs and I REALLY can't do much of it myself. So,...??

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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby greenhorn75 » Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:17 am

Thanks to everyone who gladly replied i'll wait until winter to do the job myself so for now i'll just carry an extra fully charged battery for the time being...THANK YOU ALL :D

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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby djoyner » Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:16 pm

AWLKRSN wrote:Poorboy conversion is for someone that can do it himself. I could do it to mine . the only thing I have against it is I don't like butchering up my bike.

(1) If you are out on the road where are you going to find a hacked up replacement alternator ? And who is going to take a hacked up alternator in as a core return. And depending where you are, what if there isn't a shop that rebuilds alternators then what ? As said above the Poorboy is not for a poorboy if you can't do it yourself.

(2) What would the labor be if someone would ( individual/shop ) do the job for you . No two jobs turn out the same. And what shop would take on that liability. Risk of being sued. Heck there is a guy right now (among the GW sites) that has attemped this and hooked up something wrong and now has a major wiring problem ! And he claims to be an avid mechanic

(3) Heck if my bike would have had this on it before I bought it . I would'nt have bought it . Another thing to consider resale value. Would you want someone elses hack job ? Not to say you would'nt sell it. but for how much less ? Would you feel safe riding down the road on someone elses hack job ?

For those that want to do it fine. I'm not trying to discourage you but just giving you something else to consider . For you old timers I know its a rap. But for the new comers this is the other side of the alternator conversion thery


AWLKRSN, you make some good points and just for the hell of it, I'll play devil's advocate here. I have done the Poorboy conversion and I don't get any royalties or commission for advocating this product, but....

(1) If you're on the road, where can you find a stator and then a shop to install it? I think you would have a better chance of finding an alternator rebuild shop or Advance Auto than you would a shop that stocks a stator.

(2) From my experience, the typical price to install a stator is around $1000.00. The total cost of my Poorboy conversion was about $400.00.

(3) Hack job - attached is a picture of my GL1200I after the Poorboy installation, does the bike look 'hacked up'? The fairing bracket that needs to be cut can't be seen after the lower fairing has been re-installed anyway.

In my opinion, the Poorboy conversion is (compared to replacing the stator) inexpensive, reliable and easy to repair.

Other opinions may vary.
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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby Mooseman » Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:27 pm

If you want to replace the stator with another, the only way is to pull the motor. Unless you do the alternator conversion..... I am in the same boat. Except my regulator/rectifier tested bad. So I ordered a replacement. But I also suspect the stator. So I am prepareing to pull the engine next week if needed. I am not converting to the alternator yet....
I see several have commented before me with great information. I was a little slow on the trigger. The help received here is the best.
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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby Mooseman » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:30 pm

For those that have done this recently, Do I need anything besides a rear case gasket? When replaceing the stator? I want to have everything on hand if I have to go down that road.
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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:08 pm

I would consider doing an alternator conversion, and leaving the existing stator disconnected - with the option of plugging it in, so that if I did have an alternator/alternator belt failure, I still had the stator as a backup.

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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby Mooseman » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:36 pm

Thanks, had thought about that. But I will pull the motor and replace.
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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby Lebouc » Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:22 pm

Replacing a stator isn't that big of a job like everyone seems to think , i used to work in a bike shop and must've done 30 if not more stator jobs , i used to do it within an easy day's work , but i must say the first one i did took me some 12 or 13 hours , still worth the saving , when you consider that you have about $500 in parts and the rest is all labour !!!!

And yes you need more than just the clutch cover gasket , here's a few more things :

water pump gasket , thermostat gasket , 4 intakes o-rings , 4 manifolds gaskets , maybe the 2 exhaust pakings ?? , etc etc ....
Your best bet is to buy the top gaskets set with your stator and you should be fine !!!

Good luck .

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Re: REPLACING STATOR QUESTION

Postby Mooseman » Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:44 pm

Lebouc,
Thank You. Just what I was looking for. I have replaced a stator in the past on my prior 1985 Wing. But that's been 20 years ago or so. I had 70K+ before it took a dump. Back then you could run down to the local Honda shop and they had the parts in stock. Now I have to wait 3-5 days.When I bought this 86 I knew it was an issue. This bike had just turned 20K. I have put 6.5 on the meter in the last 8 months or so. When I saw how burnt the infamous plug was I figured it was on its way do to prior abuse, or lack of use and trying to charge a under charged battery. But the bike was in nice shape, new tires and a new battery. Plus the price was just right.
Thanks again, Mooseman


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