Center stand


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Center stand

Postby thrasherg » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:05 pm



Guys & Gals,

I have a GL1800, but a friend brought me a few boxes of parts which I assembled into a running GL1200. Just got all 4 cylinders running nicely. It is quite easy to put the bike onto it's center stand, but the back wheel hardly leaves the floor. But it is almost impossible to get the bike off it's center stand. On my GL1800 I put both feet on the floor and just push the handlebars forward and the bike rolls of the stand. the gl1200 will not roll off, the bike moves forward still on the center stand. It's almost as if the center stand is coming back too far and not holding the bike in the air enough. I will start to look and see if there is excessive wear or something wrong with the stand, but I wanted to ask those of you that have 1200, is this normal for a GL1200?

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Re: Center stand

Postby oldishwinger » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:17 pm

certainly not normal, rear wheel should be off the ground a few inches anyway. might pay to have a look for broken frame member under the bike, holding the stand, or cracked stand itself

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Re: Center stand

Postby thrasherg » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:35 pm

oldishwinger wrote:certainly not normal, rear wheel should be off the ground a few inches anyway. might pay to have a look for broken frame member under the bike, holding the stand, or cracked stand itself


Thanks, that was what I was thinking, there might even be a rubber stop on the center stand that has broken off?

Gary

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Re: Center stand

Postby WINGER3 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:25 am

Check for rust that has made the stand weak at the mount points, it sounds like the stand is going to far forward and that lets the rear wheel drop closer to the ground, it then makes it almost impossible to roll the bike off the stand. The stand could also have been bent by PO, same problem. Seek and ye shall find, as saying goes. And to answer your "question is it normal to be this hard" "NO" mine will roll off the stand almost by itself the same as my last 1200. Best of luck. :mrgreen:
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Re: Center stand

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:08 am

Virtually every time I have heard of this problem, where the center stand moves too far forward making it hard to get it off, it's caused by corrosion. Either the mounting points of the center stand, or the frame itself.

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Re: Center stand

Postby thrasherg » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:15 pm

Thanks guys, I suspect something is wrong with the stand, but every now and then a motorbike comes out that has a terrible center stand, so I wanted to check before I went back out to my cold garage and tried to find a problem!! Will start looking for rust or fatigue damage!! :lol:

Gary

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Re: Center stand

Postby trhaag » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:11 am

I have the same problem. It is almost impossible to get off the center leg. So I am glad to read your answer here.

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Re: Center stand

Postby Aussie81Interstate » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:21 pm

My GL1100 has the same problem.

I haven't fixed it yet - but on my list of things to do.

The centrestand pivot has rusted solid on mine, and the only way you can use the centrestand is to loosen off the pinch bolts so that the whole stand pivots. When you do get it on the stand - and I do need some help as well - it has the same issue of being about an inch or less off the ground. Then trying to get it off the stand is near impossible. As mentioned you have to lift the bike up and push forward at the same time. I'll be looking further to either replace or repair the problem.

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Re: Center stand

Postby thrasherg » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:27 pm

I removed the center stand and it all seems fine, not sure if it's a center stand from another bike (I doubt it)? I can't see anything wrong with it, and it doesn't seem to have been modified but it does NOT hold the back wheel in the air as I would expect.. Need to investigate further.

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Re: Center stand

Postby WINGER3 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:56 pm

thrasherg wrote:I removed the center stand and it all seems fine, not sure if it's a center stand from another bike (I doubt it)? I can't see anything wrong with it, and it doesn't seem to have been modified but it does NOT hold the back wheel in the air as I would expect.. Need to investigate further.

Gary

If that is the case then you should be looking for a forward twist on the frame where the stand pivots are. If you put it on the center stand and draw a 90 degree vertical line from the floor to the center of the pivot and then mark the floor and then measure appx.1 inch from that mark, that should be the center of the bottom of you stand, if forward of that, eather the stand is bent or the frame is rusted bad inside and allows the frame to twist up and causes the stand to be to far forward. Also it could of had some kind of damage from PO, two overly heavy people sitting on the bike while it is on the stand could also bend the frame to cause your problem :mrgreen:
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Re: Center stand

Postby thrasherg » Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:27 pm

WINGER3 wrote:
thrasherg wrote:I removed the center stand and it all seems fine, not sure if it's a center stand from another bike (I doubt it)? I can't see anything wrong with it, and it doesn't seem to have been modified but it does NOT hold the back wheel in the air as I would expect.. Need to investigate further.

Gary

If that is the case then you should be looking for a forward twist on the frame where the stand pivots are. If you put it on the center stand and draw a 90 degree vertical line from the floor to the center of the pivot and then mark the floor and then measure appx.1 inch from that mark, that should be the center of the bottom of you stand, if forward of that, eather the stand is bent or the frame is rusted bad inside and allows the frame to twist up and causes the stand to be to far forward. Also it could of had some kind of damage from PO, two overly heavy people sitting on the bike while it is on the stand could also bend the frame to cause your problem :mrgreen:


Many thanks for that Winger3, will check this weekend. Hadn't thought about the frame actually being twisted!!

Gary

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Re: Center stand

Postby WINGER3 » Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:33 pm

Here is my bike on the center stand to give you an idea of how it should look, should be less then 2in. off center to easliy to roll off, Hope this helps. :mrgreen
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Re: Center stand

Postby revtmuller1 » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:12 pm

Hi, thought I'd throw my two cents into the discussion here. Last summer I replaced my rear wheel. It came with a tire already mounted that was in good condition. (It was a Dunlap Elite lll) When I got home and put it on the center stand my rear wheel was almost touching the ground. A fellow Goldwinger and I investigated and discovered the tire's side wall was taller than usual. This would cause my problem for sure. I'll know for certain this spring when I put new tires on her. If you haven't figured your problem out by then I will post another item on it with my findings.

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Re: Center stand

Postby revtmuller1 » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:18 pm

Sorry I failed to mention in my previous post that we checked for rust and other signs of deterioration or twisting on the frame and found nothing unusual. Center stand appeared in good condition as well.




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