Hard to shift after new stator


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Hard to shift after new stator

Postby MadDogBlack » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:53 pm



Hey guys have a 86 gl 1200 had stator and regular replaced and when I got the bike back it is hard to upshift downshift is fine ask the shop that did the work and they said they didn't touch the transmission any idea's



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Re: Hard to shift after new stator

Postby dingdong » Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:10 am

Your mechanic may not have touched the xmission but they had to remove and replace the clutch cover and slave assembly.

Watch this video and go back with some ammunition.

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Re: Hard to shift after new stator

Postby tom84std » Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:53 am

It's true they didn't do anything to the gearbox, but they had to remove the shifter pedal, lay the engine down and roll it over. Disturb and remove the slave cylinder and linkage. Did the hydraulics get bled when reinstalled? Does the clutch feel normal at the handlebar lever? Engage and disengage in the right spot? Pedal in the right position? I'm concerned the engine got away from them while it was out and something violent happened to the shifter shaft. I'm a little concerned about a mechanic who removes the entire engine, works on it, reinstalls it and denies responsibility for something having changed.

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Re: Hard to shift after new stator

Postby MadDogBlack » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:49 pm

Well first off thanks for the video second I'm on my own on this as the guy that worked on it insisted he did nothing to cause this problem and they are not going to try to fix it. So with that said looks like I am going to tackle it myself now I am a atv and dirt bike tech but never messed with a bike this size any Ideas what to look for before I go into this blind? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

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Re: Hard to shift after new stator

Postby tbirdscott » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:00 am

Start with bleeding the clutch and make sure the shift lever is tight on the splines. Also what type of oil did they put in after the repair?

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Re: Hard to shift after new stator

Postby MadDogBlack » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:39 pm

Ok I have found the reason for the trouble shifting when you shift the lever dose not return to center so you are ready for the next gear you have to bring it back manualy its not stiff moves free and shifts well as long as you move it back to center. Any ideas is the return spring inturnal on these? And when the work was done Honda gn4 oil was used.

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Re: Hard to shift after new stator

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:07 am

Did they by chance have the front cover of the engine off?

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Re: Hard to shift after new stator

Postby MadDogBlack » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:46 pm

They have a timing belt on the invoice so I guess they had to have yes.

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Re: Hard to shift after new stator

Postby Old Fogey » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:23 pm

MadDogBlack wrote:They have a timing belt on the invoice so I guess they had to have yes.


They didn't need to take the front transmission cover off to change the timing belt. If they did so, and didn't re-new the gasket that could cause it. But what else did you have them do?

And only one timing belt? Something wrong about this whole thing.
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Re: Hard to shift after new stator

Postby MadDogBlack » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:24 pm

it says gl1200 timing belt kit I also had them replace the stator and voltage regulator.

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Re: Hard to shift after new stator

Postby Old Fogey » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:25 am

MadDogBlack wrote:Ok I have found the reason for the trouble shifting when you shift the lever dose not return to center so you are ready for the next gear you have to bring it back manualy its not stiff moves free and shifts well as long as you move it back to center. Any ideas is the return spring inturnal on these? And when the work was done Honda gn4 oil was used.


This is a GL1000 but the shifter mechanism is much the same.

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The front cover is only a fraction off the shift claw when fitted, but if the lever is moving freely that is not the problem. It sounds like the hairpin centering spring is off it's peg or broken, but how that could have happened or why they might have even been in there is beyond me.
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Re: Hard to shift after new stator

Postby MadDogBlack » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:51 pm

No easy fix right have to pull it?

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Re: Hard to shift after new stator

Postby Old Fogey » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:43 pm

You can get the front cover off without pulling the engine. If it still has the original screws in there, you will find that they are made from cream cheese! Almost certainly you will need an impact screwdriver.
With the cover off you can check the movement of the linkage. If you find that the big spring is broken, the engine has to be stripped to renew it.


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