Needs choke till warmed up and parked


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Needs choke till warmed up and parked

Postby HONDA'S » Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:57 pm



My 1200 needs choke till it is warmed up and shut off for a while. Misses and backfires till about 3000. Went to church the other nite and 2 hours later went for little spin and it ran great. Had just done the saefoam.in the carbs for 2 days. Got it running at about 4500 with the cruse for a while 10 min mabey. Noticed the headers were red hot. Banked off to idle. Ran great then. Is the next step a rebuild of the carbs ?



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Re: Needs choke till warmed up and parked

Postby wingman12 » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:33 pm

Good evening honda's, definitely sounds like you are running to lean. Your headers should not glow red. I would take it easy for a few tank full with double or even thriple dose of seafoam. Check the how to do articles and locate info on your air/fuel mixture jets. They may be out of adjustment. Please keep us posted on your results. :D :D

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Re: Needs choke till warmed up and parked

Postby HONDA'S » Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:35 pm

Thanks. Soon as we get some dry weather.

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Re: Needs choke till warmed up and parked

Postby wingman12 » Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:58 pm

If you can load up your current fuel and run bike 15 or 20 min to ge seafoam into carbs and sit for several days it might help desolve the varnish buildup in the carbs. Just a thought. :D :D

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Re: Needs choke till warmed up and parked

Postby HONDA'S » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:10 am

I had just drained fuel out of the carbs then put house from tank into seafoam and tried to start it. Then left it air 2 days. I drained it again then hoocked back to the fuel tank to run it. Still does it but , it sits a while after running, start it , and it runs fine. Mabey just to lazy to pull the carbs. Just got done with the alt. conversion.

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Re: Needs choke till warmed up and parked

Postby dingdong » Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:30 am

Bite the bullet and rebuild the carbs. You are most likely wasting your money on the Sea Foam. It will not clean clogged jets. I also recommend not riding the bike with the headers getting red hot. You could destroy the engine.
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Re: Needs choke till warmed up and parked

Postby wingman12 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:08 am

Honda's, it appears that you have tried what you can to clear the carbs, as dingdong said, seafoam can not clear clogged jets. You are going to have to remove the carbs. Depending on your funds, a complete rebuild would be the best for many years of no carb issues. Ethanol causes rubber to decompose. Vintage bikes used rubber for all o rings and seals. They are not difficult just a pita, and whatever you do take your time so you don't have to do it twice. :D :D

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Re: Needs choke till warmed up and parked

Postby HONDA'S » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:03 am

So were is a good place to rebuild kit from ?

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Re: Needs choke till warmed up and parked

Postby wingman12 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:45 pm

the most complete kit I heard of, and I also perched such a kit for my 82 1100I, was from a company called Randakk Cycle Shack, the kit was in the area of $225. Complete with every o ring, washer, spring, gasket, petcock rebuild kit, and accelerator pump kit and full step by step instruction. There are others but I do not know them. Several people will pipe in later and provide you with additional advise and information on kits and processes. I guess you decision will boil down to, how long you plan on keeping this bike and if you really enjoy riding it enough to spend the monies to completely rebuilt it and clean, clean, clean the jets. This kit does not include any jets, they recommend that if you need jets to get them from mother Honda. good luck and please keep us posted on your progress and decision. :D :D

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Re: Needs choke till warmed up and parked

Postby HONDA'S » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:07 pm

Think I checked their site and they were out. Will do again when I get home tonite. Really like it so boss my wife. Just did the alt. thing and enjoyed it (works great and it fit ). My son did one of theirs and got the Jets he thinks would work on mine.

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Re: Needs choke till warmed up and parked

Postby wingman12 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:43 pm

The 82 I did, I had to replace only the idle jets because I could not get them unclogged and one air/fuel needle because one was bent so bad that it broke off at the adjustment threads before I could get it completely out. fortunately I had enough left to get a pair of tiny needle nose pliers on the balance and remove. All of the o rings and rubber parts were hard as a rock and several fell apart while I was trying to remove them. a lot of scrubbing and soaking in a very strong cab boil solution, about 6 hours soaking and then a couple of hours scrubbing and installing the new parts per carb. took me two days to completely disassemble and reassemble. but I could not believe the instant start and ran as smooth as brand new. well worth the time and $. They will not have to be redone again in my life time as long as properly prepped for the winter hibernation. :D :D

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Re: Needs choke till warmed up and parked

Postby dingdong » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:43 pm

HONDA'S wrote:Think I checked their site and they were out. Will do again when I get home tonite. Really like it so boss my wife. Just did the alt. thing and enjoyed it (works great and it fit ). My son did one of theirs and got the Jets he thinks would work on mine.


They're not out. Randall is on vacation. He shuts all new orders off to keep customers from getting pissed because of delayed orders. Just wait a few days then check back.

Chances of needing new jets are slim to none. Remove and clean.
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Re: Needs choke till warmed up and parked

Postby HONDA'S » Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:24 pm

Saw on ebay an outlaw brand rebuild kit. Would be about $60.00. Is this a good kit?

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Re: Needs choke till warmed up and parked

Postby HONDA'S » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:11 am

Hi everyone.
Finally been out for a few rides and just wanted to let everbike runs almost perfect. Seem like the more it's run the better. I've added a little seafoam to the gas when filled. So far I'm pleased with the results. Also happy with the alternator conversion I did this winter. That was fun to do.

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Re: Needs choke till warmed up and parked

Postby HONDA'S » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:58 am

It has been a while but I finally rebuild the carburetors on my Goldwing. Had to take the heads off to replace the head gaskets which were almost gone. Finally got everything back together again and it just runs great. Now it's still up on the table because I'm waiting for a vacuum gauge set to arrive. I'll be able to get everything tuned up and back to running good again. When it was on the table I ran it for about a half hour at idle and with the new gaskets and everything in it the temperature never even got much over halfway on the temperature gauge. SO waiting for a nice day to maybe go for a little ride. Thanks for all the advice that was given by everybody it is a very good site to be part of. Thanks to everybody




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