Broken frame gl1200 1984


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Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby Grahamkeegan1989 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:10 pm



Hi all my frame on my gl1200 broke today at the centre stand point I'm gutted this hike has been nothing but problem after problem but with my will and help from u all I got past every hurdle but now I don't now if I can do anything with her????
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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:08 pm

My first thing I'm gonna say is replace the frame...
Now with that out of the way,in a pinch,for another fellow on a different bike...many years ago.....he was broke....I knew how to weld really good...
We were able to "saftey" the bike...you know about welding stuff...sparks,heat and all...
After a lot of clamping,cleaning,aligning for the original position and some select pieces of scrap steel,we reinforced and rewelded the frame till it was safe again..
Not pretty but roadworthy.
I'm not suggesting this is your way to fix your bike..just something I did once.

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby twocams » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:01 pm

If the frame is that rotten it will be roten on the inside as well. Count your blessings it didnt crack on the other side at the same time. And drop the engine out, run over with the rear tire, throw you off the bike, hit your head on the pavement. Knock you out break your leg spend 6 weeks in the hospital. :o Dont even mess with it....your life may depend on it.

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby twocams » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:13 pm

Do motorcycles have to pass MOT? Cause this one won't.

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby Grahamkeegan1989 » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:22 am

Thanks for the replys my frame number is dose the new frame number have to start with

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby Grahamkeegan1989 » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:24 am

My frame stats with
Sc14 will the new one have to start with the same number or will other ones fit thanks

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby deanbw » Wed Feb 17, 2016 5:57 pm

any gl1200 should work, ltd or se-I may have tabs for exhaust covers you don't need but all frames are the same.

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby thompsoj22 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:07 am

just an opinion, a different frame delivered to your door approx. $500? a different Goldwing of the same year/model approx. $1200? you are at a turning point, a build up of a different frame is an enormous task. keep your bike for parts and try your luck with another wing.

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby stinvinn » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:34 pm

:D
thompsoj22 wrote:just an opinion, a different frame delivered to your door approx. $500? a different Goldwing of the same year/model approx. $1200? you are at a turning point, a build up of a different frame is an enormous task. keep your bike for parts and try your luck with another wing.

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby deanbw » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:34 pm

stinvinn wrote::D
thompsoj22 wrote:just an opinion, a different frame delivered to your door approx. $500? a different Goldwing of the same year/model approx. $1200? you are at a turning point, a build up of a different frame is an enormous task. keep your bike for parts and try your luck with another wing.

well, I see these with free shipping to london and UK craigslist has no gl1200's. I say fix it. You will have a chance to clean,paint and lube everything while you build, then you know what you have.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/84-HONDA-GL12 ... SwnH1WavHB


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/87-Honda-Gold ... xyOlhSyrjP

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby Grahamkeegan1989 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:13 pm

Hi all so started to strip down I'm now getting the last few holds out to drop the engine I still have a massive problem I ordered a new frame but it didn't come with a sub frame and I can't find any in the uk can anyone advise please Thansk Graham
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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby twocams » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:25 pm

Now whatdumbass would sell everything but the sub frame. Have you advertised in the local small ads for one. I assume yours is to rusted or won't fit? Have you tried the people on ebay that ship stuff to England for GL?

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:08 pm

Good condition subframes sell for $100 or so on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/1317207272 ... ps&lpid=82





I wonder if it might be worthwhile having a talented local welder fabricate something?

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby Grahamkeegan1989 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:13 pm

Over here in the uk an English speaking welder is hard to find. I was looking at the ones on eBay but I don't want to get hit with a huge duty or tax

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby twocams » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:26 pm

Have you tried this Pinwall Cycle parts on ebay. Out of Ohio USA they have whole frame for 141 quid. They maybe able to tell you how much taxes and such are, they ship worldwide. Sure they have an email address but their phone # is 330-879-9910. may have the part U need for less. Just a thought from this end. If they crate ship with other parts to other people maybe less taxes?

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby Grahamkeegan1989 » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:25 pm

Thanks for ur reply a guys I have one more question would a gl1100 subframe fit a gl1200 frame I no most of u have already said there the same frame Thansk again guys I'll post some pics tomoz

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby Grahamkeegan1989 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:15 am

Well ppl I've have now stripped the bike but now the only problem I have is this f*****g subframe the import cost and subframe is £200 in total I can't pay that so i found a gl1100 subframe on eBay but he is not sure if it will fit and so am I dose any one have any knowledge on this Thansk

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby twocams » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:31 am

Can you get a picture that you can put side by side with yours. Get some measurements length/width, bolt hole distance, curves,color. Just some thought.

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby Grahamkeegan1989 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:26 pm

Hi lads how are you all doing its been a long time since iv posted but iv managed to get the frame and swing arm sandblasted and sub frame has also been brought and blasted I'm about to get it all powder coated so I have been working on her my mission is not to let her rot. So I'm about to rebuild the engine but as its a 31 year old engine I don't no what's best to leave alone any thoughts on what to change ie belts and carbs only or is there more thanks again

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby ekvh » Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:01 pm

Is the 1100 subframe going to work?

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby Rusty Bike » Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:28 pm

I have the rear torn down on my SEi. Fortunately no rust to speak of. Just painted swing arm due to a little surface rust. No pitting. I see a few gaps where the sub frame joins the main frame. I'm figuring on spraying some non-detergent motor oil in the frame where I can get to it. Non-detergent oil has a lot of paraffin in it, great undercoating. I'm also considering drilling a few small 1/8" holes in the frame tubes up high so i can get some oil in those main tubes as well. i don't feel a hole that size will weaken the frame and the oil will do wonders for rust prevention. I feel bad for this fellow who loves his old bike then the frame goes south. PA. uses salt on our roads in winter. That salt ate my 750 Yamaha exhaust, hence my name on here. Squirt some oil in those frame tubes folks, cheep insurance...Rusty

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby twocams » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:07 am

They dont use salt (yet) on the roads around here. Crushed volcanic rock? And I live 1 1/2 hrs from the Pacific Ocean. So very little rust, i'm glad to say. :D

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Re: Broken frame gl1200 1984

Postby Maz » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:11 pm

Grahamkeegan1989 wrote:Hi lads how are you all doing its been a long time since iv posted but iv managed to get the frame and swing arm sandblasted and sub frame has also been brought and blasted I'm about to get it all powder coated so I have been working on her my mission is not to let her rot. So I'm about to rebuild the engine but as its a 31 year old engine I don't no what's best to leave alone any thoughts on what to change ie belts and carbs only or is there more thanks again


Hi Graham,
Glad you're getting it all sorted. Be prepared to find loads of blasting grit coming out of any gaps in the frame. Have a look at the Wingovations website. John has plenty of details on protecting the inside of your 'new' frame.
While your engine is out, definitely do the carbs and belts and check all of the cooling system joints. If you disturb any, replace the gasket or 'O' rings as they probably won't seal if re-used.
If you are having any neutral light/cooling problems, sort them now while you can access the relevant sensors and connections.

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