Stator is toast....


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wilmo
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Stator is toast....

Postby wilmo » Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:28 pm



Yup confirmed that just now. I get 20 vac on one pair of legs and 50 on the other two. Output is about 11.69 vdc at the battery at 3000 rpm. Toast. Now I have to make a hard decision and right now in my depressed and pissed off state is to unload it as parts. I do not want a project-I'm not even going to consider pulling the motor as I don't have a garage, tools or a job to afford buying all these things. At my age, no one wants to hire me and I'm too young to retire. Life sucks about now. Anyway, I'd like to know what the plastic parts are worth for this, it's blue and I have all of them in pretty good condition.
I know there is the poorboy conversion but that just seems like an ugly option as well for the same reasons mentioned earlier. So I think I'll just cut my losses and get what I can for it. It does run well but without a charging system, virtually worthless.
I will sleep on it, though and maybe I can come up with another solution but I'm not giving it much hope.
I've heard of a 'kit' for the poorboy conversion but haven't really thought about it. Does anyone know about this? cost? level of difficulty? special tools? Right now I'm going through circles in my mind as to how to approach this and could use some guidance and encouragement. Or something.
Dammit.



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Re: Stator is toast....

Postby wilmo » Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:56 pm

ok feeling a bit better now. What I need is a link or reference to how to do the poorboy. I'm sure there is stuff here on how, including parts list and ideas from you that have been through it. Any and all help, suggestions is appreciated. Not sure if I'll do it but can't make that decision until I know what I'm into. Thanks.

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Re: Stator is toast....

Postby twocams » Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:58 pm

I feel your pain about being unemployed. i just waited it out (6mo.) till I was 62. Then punched out. When they told me at the SS office I had been working for 45 yrs. :o Longer I just didnt have a SS card yet.

What does the bike look like? is it a POS? can it be saved and sold as is? You need some tools and space to do anything and $$$$.

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Re: Stator is toast....

Postby wilmo » Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:10 pm

twocams wrote:I feel your pain about being unemployed. i just waited it out (6mo.) till I was 62. Then punched out. When they told me at the SS office I had been working for 45 yrs. :o Longer I just didnt have a SS card yet.

What does the bike look like? is it a POS? can it be saved and sold as is? You need some tools and space to do anything and $$$$.

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No, the bike is in very good shape, everything works except for the original stereo, which I replaced. Pulls like a freight train, but could use a little wax ;)
I want to look into the poorboy thing before deciding if I want to part it out. I think i'd get more out of it that way than just unloading it whole. There are many miles left on this, it's just barely broken in.
I am going to school, believe it or not, to get certified for what I've been doing for the last 30+ years (IT). Seems now they want the paper more important than real life experience-go figure. SS for me is too far away to just coast, 60 in December.

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Re: Stator is toast....

Postby stinvinn » Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:31 pm

i found this.........................viewtopic.php?f=12&t=23842

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Re: Stator is toast....

Postby twocams » Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:00 pm

They have a poor boy kit on ebay. Think for like $600. You can make a kit lots cheaper than that. Basically you need a pulley for crankshaft end/bolt. Fan belt, car alternator, couple brackets and bolts, now that's real basic. Anyway U get the Idea. If you got a buddy with welder, some flat stock. I would say maybe $200.

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Re: Stator is toast....

Postby thompsoj22 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:24 am

for the reasons stated, tools, garage, attitude, you cant part a bike out without taking it apart and the poor boy kit would be a pain in the ass if your doing it in the street. I say off it as a complete bike for whatever you can get and buy a bicycle, it wont bum you out with mechanical repairs, you can work on it in your living room and the exercise will keep you healthy and productive. :(

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Re: Stator is toast....

Postby Rusty Bike » Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:39 am

Parting it out will be a slow process. Storage is a problem till parts sell. There are a lot of parts on the mkt now. I would sell in one piece and let someone in a better situation have a shot at a fine bike. Remember, all these old bikes need some work and there are a lot of good mechanics out there. It's probably worth 4-600 as is. Good luck.

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Re: Stator is toast....

Postby wilmo » Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:11 pm

from the other site where I also posted this, I got some positive responses on the idea that pulling the motor isn't all that bad. In fact, it doesn't have to come all the way out just loosen it, shift it left and rotate to get to it. I'm thinking.... I just have to make a decision so I'll give myself some time.

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Re: Stator is toast....

Postby goldwingrider78 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:18 pm

Where can i obtain the correct pulley for rhe alternator conversion and what size do i need any info plz?

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Re: Stator is toast....

Postby oldishwinger » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:03 pm

at the head of the technical forum, on the steve saunders web site there is 'how to' install an alternator.

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Re: Stator is toast....

Postby julimike54 » Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:36 pm

This site has a lot of conversion info
http://www.classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=10


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