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tbeiler
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Now I know

Postby tbeiler » Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:21 pm



So, after the winter maintenance on the 86 Aspy, including taking off the final drive and lubing the splines, I give the bike a really good run and sure enough I developed an oil leak thru the boot. Appeared to be hypoid oil. So this morning after a few hours, I get the final drive back off and the condition of the oil seal tells me why it leaked. When it went back together, the seal looked OK, so I just put some oil around it and put it back in. I didn't heed the recommendation in the Clymer manual, that when taking off the final drive to replace oil seal witha new one. Well, now I know.
So I bought two oil seals, one for the 86 and another for the 85 LTD, which is the next project I am working on.
Part number is 912161-ME9-005.




Any ideas on how to compress spring to get the spring retainer off? It needs to come off to get old seal off and new one in. If I can't figure out a way, then the dealer will have to do it.
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crack in oil seal, I cut off most of rubber seal with knife.
crack in oil seal, I cut off most of rubber seal with knife.
drift punch to get oil seal off the shaft.
drift punch to get oil seal off the shaft.



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twocams
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Re: Now I know

Postby twocams » Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:01 pm

Im confused :? Shouldnt the seal be somewhere else....not on the shaft? :?:

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tbeiler
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Re: Now I know

Postby tbeiler » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:49 pm

I don't know if I'm on the right track here, I see that the oil seal was not good and assume that I have a leak thru here. Can anyone else chime in if this makes sense. If not gear oil, then it's coming from u joint end and its engine oil.

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Re: Now I know

Postby skier » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:39 pm

I've had my final drive/drive shaft out several times, but have never replaced that seal. I know the manuals say to replace it, but I've never had a leak. Obvously, your's is bad. Can the circlip be removed to get the spring off?

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Re: Now I know

Postby twocams » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:44 pm

Its definitely leaking. Gear oil has a definite smell, like old dead stuff. Engine oil just smells like oil not harsh at all. :P

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Re: Now I know

Postby tbeiler » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:50 am

It seems the spring pressure is keeping the circlip real tight, that's why I thought relieving the spring pressure would help to remove.

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Re: Now I know

Postby tbeiler » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:21 pm

So, got the new oil seal for the 86 Aspy today along with some cam cover gaskets (for the LTD) and a few other items.
The dealer installed the new seal and didn't get charged for it. Gotta like it.
Anyway out to the garage now to install and get the bike back together. Of course its raining today, so no test drive after I'm done.

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Re: Now I know

Postby Rednaxs60 » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:24 pm

To get the spring off the end of the shaft you can use c-clip pliers, or just work it off the end with a screwdriver. It doesn't sit in a groove.

Make sure when you put the driveshaft back in the damper spring is in the end of the shaft that fits in the FD.

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Re: Now I know

Postby tbeiler » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:10 pm

Yes, good advice, good thing the damper spring is held in pretty tight in, but I had a heck of a time inserting the shaft into the U joint end. Took off the saddlebag frames for better access. Tried for half an hour, then gave up and went back at it 1/2 hr later and then it slides right in with no issues. Go figure. There must be a trick to it, but haven't got it figured out yet.
Everything is back on, except saddlebag frames and rear tupperware, slated for tomorrow morning. Oh and refill the FD with hypoid.

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Re: Now I know

Postby tbeiler » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:26 pm

So, the bike went together pretty quickly, its amazing how fast and easy it goes the second time round. Hypoid oil topped up, and just got back from a real good ride. No leaks, no oil burning smell, so far so good.
Success.
Now I can get back to the 85 LTD.




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