Considering a 1986 GL1200i. A few questions


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Considering a 1986 GL1200i. A few questions

Postby Aurock » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:25 am



Hey all. I've been riding a 1983 Suzuki GR650 for a few years, but I'm ready to move up to something bigger. Being a big guy myself, I feel like I'm oversized for this one. The suzuki was my first motorcycle, and I've learned a good bit of maintenance and repairs on it. Starting with 0 mechanical knowledge, I think I've done ok.


I'm looking at buying a 1986 GL1200i, with about 45000 miles on it. I don't know much about goldwings. I guess to start, what does a bike like that typically go for? It's not in pristine condition, but not bad by any means. It just looks like a 25 year old bike.

Next, I took it for a ride yesterday and noticed that the speedometer reads high, by about 7 or 8 MPH. Is that something that can be corrected fairly easily?

The radio doesn't work. It turns on, but I only get static. I'm ok with car stereo installation, and I assume this should be pretty much the same, with the exception of getting to the radio. It looks like I might need to take off the front cover of the fairing to get to the wiring etc for the stereo?

I guess that's it for the moment. I'll come back if I think of anything else to add.

Thanks!



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Re: Considering a 1986 GL1200i. A few questions

Postby tricky » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:09 pm

As far as price is concerned, I can't help there.

Speedometers, yes they do read high. They sure don't want to be blamed for your speeding and allowing for the fact that they are allowed up to 10% discrepancy they tray to err on the safe side.... What to do? I use my GPS if I really want to know what speed I am doing.

On the Interstate models the radio was not a Honda/Panasonic model unless added as an option. Normally if they have a radio they are usually auto or marine radio's.

Unlikely you will reach anything from the front unless the PO has run wiring through there. Probably have to get at everything from the front.

Remove the battery cover and check the state of the plug on the left side of the battery, If it has already been removed and hard wired... good.

Check the state of the connections on the right side of the battery around the 30 amp main fuse.

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Re: Considering a 1986 GL1200i. A few questions

Postby goldtr6c » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:14 pm

I agree with Tricky on those wires. In fact I suggest hard soldering all wires leading from the alternator and even the regulator. It may save you a long walk and headache later on. Another biggie with the Wings will be the timing belts. Check with the PO and see if the belts have been changed. If they break, its cryin' time.

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Re: Considering a 1986 GL1200i. A few questions

Postby Aurock » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:44 pm

tricky wrote:Speedometers, yes they do read high. They sure don't want to be blamed for your speeding and allowing for the fact that they are allowed up to 10% discrepancy they tray to err on the safe side.... What to do? I use my GPS if I really want to know what speed I am doing.


Yeah, I didn't even go as far as the GPS, I could tell just from traffic around me that I was going slower than I thought. Later had my wife pace me at 65, and I was reading about 72-73mph


On the Interstate models the radio was not a Honda/Panasonic model unless added as an option. Normally if they have a radio they are usually auto or marine radio's.

Unlikely you will reach anything from the front unless the PO has run wiring through there. Probably have to get at everything from the front.

I believe the radio in it right now is a Clarion brand cassette player. I've not poked around too much at it yet, but I'm sure I can get at the wiring somehow. So will pretty much any auto stereo (single din, of course) fit these, or is there something special I need to watch for? I don't need anything expensive, but might go with the same unit I have in my car just for consistency of controls etc. Also, it has bluetooth. Obviously I couldn't take a call on the road through a bluetooth stereo, but a2dp streaming from the iphone would be nice. And, if the phone rings, at least the stereo would light up, so I would know I was missing a call.

Remove the battery cover and check the state of the plug on the left side of the battery, If it has already been removed and hard wired... good.

Check the state of the connections on the right side of the battery around the 30 amp main fuse.

Thanks, I'll check those.

I'm buying from family, so I trust the seller. I know it's had regular oil changes and such, but I don't think he's done anything else in the 2-3 years he owned it. And prior to that, he bought it from a dealer, so who knows how the previous owners treated it.

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Re: Considering a 1986 GL1200i. A few questions

Postby Aurock » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:30 pm

Wow. Getting to the stereo wiring to trace this problem is going to be a lot tougher than I thought. I got the front cover off, pulled the stereo out a bit, then pulled 3 plastic pieces that cover the opening/build the radio out further.

I can see where the wiring goes down in the fairin and past the forks, but have no idea how to get to it for replacing the stereo, much less for tracking down the problem.

I dont suppose anyone has a link showing how to get down into the fairing further, to access/trace the wiring?

Or, perhaps I should just call the honda dealer and ask if this is something they'd do, and what the cost might be.

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Re: Considering a 1986 GL1200i. A few questions

Postby tricky » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:28 pm

I doubt you will find a dealer to work on these old bikes especially if it isnt a stock radio.

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Re: Considering a 1986 GL1200i. A few questions

Postby Aurock » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:40 pm

Really? Maybe I've been lucky, but the local suzuki dealer has been great about working on my current bike, which is a fairly rare model -- 1983 GR650. I guess I didn't realize dealers would refuse to work on an older model bike.

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Re: Considering a 1986 GL1200i. A few questions

Postby tricky » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:38 am

MOST Honda dealers seem to have this 10 year rule.

Your also working with an installation that is not stock.

Do you have a picture of the radio?

Not all auto radio's will fit because of the space restraints.

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Re: Considering a 1986 GL1200i. A few questions

Postby Aurock » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:38 pm

Got a few pictures of the radio tonight. I haven't put the plastic bezels back in place, so it's just sitting in the opening right now. That opening was obviously covered with the bezels, 3 parts, which also raised the front of the radio out probably 2" or so from the actual opening. In the picture of the radio face, you can also see where he wiring seems to go down and pass near the forks.
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Re: Considering a 1986 GL1200i. A few questions

Postby tricky » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:47 pm

This is an aftermarket radio, your pretty well on your own with this one.

We don't know what the PO has done to wire this in.

Your best bet is to trace the wiring and see if there is power to the radio.

Sorry.

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Re: Considering a 1986 GL1200i. A few questions

Postby detdrbuzzard » Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:05 am

i would get rid of that radio for something newer but if you are not afraid then wire it just as the diagram shows. red powers on with the ignition, yellow should go direct to the battery, it powers the clock and memory for the radio, black is ground, again back to the battery. that only leaves the speaker wires


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