WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM


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WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:01 am



hey guys, i was wondering how to go about installing an upgraded stereo to my SEi's bike fairing. how do you wire it in without using the stock "plug in" connector for the sound system thats inside the fairing and on the back of the stock radio. will i still be able to my 4 stock speakers and left hand radio switches and the other dials,( auto volume, tone, and balance) that are on the trip command center thats on the false tank and the stock radio antenna.

i cant find anything in the "how-to" sections. im sure someone in here has replaced their stock radio for an upgraded version. any help would be appreciated.

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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby NVSB4 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:14 pm

Anything can be done, but there's no simple solution.
An aftermarket can be fitted, but make sure that it is marine quality due to the elements that it will encounter.
The connections will also have to be configured, but you can probably salvage the connector off the old unit and rewire to make it easier.
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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:53 pm

i have my other stereo unit on my other bike i can use along with the marine grade flip open cover. reusing the original connector would be great. do you think this is something that an auto stereo shop would be able to do?

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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby NVSB4 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:22 pm

The PO of my '86 Aspy had replaced the stereo with a Panasonic car stereo and had made a "special" adapter (with wood and drywall screws) to make it fit.
That is not the way to handle it. Any good stereo installation shop should be able to handle it so that it looks better and works.
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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:49 pm

well, in the pic below is the radio thats on my 1100 with its marine cover. its only a 2 or 4 speaker am/fm stereo, no cassette or disk player. just a nice upgraded stereo that i replaced the stock radio with. best thing about this radio is it has a pull-out face so i can put it in my bike's trunk and lock it in and the casing of the radio stays in the fairing. im sure a competent auto audio shop should be able to come up with something.

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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby SilverDave » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:43 pm

Are you sure you want to do this ?

( as opposed to sending unit to Sierra Electronics for a thorough cleaning and tuneup ? )

All the 1200 i've ever seen with a more modern deck have great speaker sound ...

but....
you lose all the nifty functions that are a part of the left handlebar and tape / radio deck .
--- thumb operated mute, CB over ride, speaker/earphone switching , sound lowered when passenger or driver is speaking , auto tune from left thumb,
AM/FM/ " Tape " and an tape adapter or circuit rewiring*** to play thru a MP3 chip or external sound source ,
again all controlled from left thumb ... and of course the speed - volume auto level adjusting .


Seems like a loss of a lot of functionality just for quality sound from the speakers ..

I get very nice earphone sound with my hard wired adapter cord and a MP3 player with 200 songs .



its just medium quality sound thru the speakers, because of wind noise and a full helmet ....

SilverDave

*** and if you don't feel like adding a line yourself with mini jack directly to the circuit board , Sierra can even do that for you ( for a price ) while they are cleaning and tuning your unit

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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby roadwanderer2 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:51 pm

hey silver, your right about maybe loosing all my stereo handlebar features which i really dont want to have happen. i like being able to lower/mute, and change stations at my fingertips along with the trip command center for speaker balance/tone, but i was thinking about that option as well. i get very bad reception where i live, its like the volume goes in and out as im riding as if i loose the station signal, and the tape deck works, but the tape keeps slowing down, stopping and it almost seems like the tape is getting stuck inside the unit.

i read their website and saw what they have to offer and their prices aren't unreasonable, so i think once i get this bike up and running again, i might contact them and tell them whats going on with my stock stereo system.

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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby SilverDave » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:51 pm

Its a 30 year old tape unit . At the very least you need a tune-up, new belt, capstan lube , and anti magnetism of the parts ..... which Sierra can do ..

You still listen to tapes ?? amazing!!! 'Nuff said .

I also live at the edge of mountains ... so except in a city ... radio, even FM is also "iffy " for me .

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I used to use an "iRiver" disk player which played MP3 music disks , or actual bought-at-the-store CD's ( Thru a tape adapter).
It had a 40 second antishock circuit , so ... the best of all possible worlds.
It also had a nifty wired remote , velcrowed to my left handlebar , so I could put the 150 song disk and player in the false tank, and control it also with my left thumb ..as I rode along

Sadly , it died . and it was un-repairable .... heavy sigh
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These mini MP3 players are less than $2 if you buy on e-bay from China , and wait 2 weeks . I use 3 of them .

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mini-USB-Clip-MP ... Sw3mpXM-1E

They take 2 GB micro SD chips which are also cheap , ' cuz apparently no one wants one that small anymore !

so I create my song list on my home computer , on several chips , each good for 3+ hours and I have enough music for a
5 day trip ... commercial free ... crystal clear (since Sierra tuned my unit about 6 years ago .)

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The only negatives :
I believe in focussing on the road, and ATGATT*** . so ... these little buttons are too tiny for ease of use with gloved fingers ...
so I create my tunes list very carefully .... and listen to everything , in order .
Secondly , their batteries are only good for 5 to 7 hours ... so one is in the false tank charging , when the cell phone is not , while I listen to another.

Works for me , because I am fairly cheap .

The entire setup costs less than 1/20 th of my iRiver disk player.

You do need a quality helmet speaker setup ( J & M ? ) and you do need to tune up your radio/tape unit with Sierra .

Have fun ..

SilverDave
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*** ATGATT = All The Gear,All The Time so fully cuffed riding gloves, good full face helmet, and armoured jacket, pants !!

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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby roadwanderer2 » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:23 am

yeah, i know it's an old unit and probably should have some "maintenance" done to it to make it work correctly. right now i have to figure out whats causing the bike to loose all electrical power and popping solenoid fuses.

as for ATGATT, i cant ride with all that stuff on, i need to have freedom of movement in my arms legs and fingers. i know a lot of riders do wear protective clothing, but i just cant. if there was a "helmet optional" law here in Tennessee i wouldn't wear one. i liked it down in Florida where it was "optional" to wear a helmet, and as long as you had medical insurance coverage you didn't have to wear it. yeah yeah, i know helmets saves lives, but it should be left up to the rider to decide whether or not he/she wants to wear one.

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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby jjunkin1 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:25 am

Did you mount that in the right pocket Roadwander (sorry didn't write down your handel)? It is kinda hard to tell from the pic. What did you do for speakers? I am in the process of radio and sound upgrade. The unit I mounted is usb,aux and Bluetooth so all controls will be done from cell phone in mag case on false tank.

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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby roadwanderer2 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:56 am

hey jjunkin, yes, i mounted the radio with the casing inside the right fairing pocket. what i had to do was cut the bottom of the pocket out so i could slide the entire radio box inside the pocket. the only problem with that is when i placed the radio inside the pocket, it was "askew" slightly because the bottom of the radio was hitting the inside of the fairing, but i was able to get it down far enough so it would be level with the pocket cover. i also cut the top of the pocket leaving only the pocket lock cylinder in place so i could lock the radio casing down so it cant be stolen, but if someone is intent on getting it, im sure they would rip the pocket lid out to get the casing of the radio out of the pocket.

the face plate is removable so once its out, the base of the stereo is still inside the pocket. i then took a marine grade cover and used the 6 screws that came with it to secure the radio cover down to the pocket cover and its totally waterproof. wiring it up was a different story. i took the speaker wires from the stock fairing speakers and ran them to the radio thru the fairing so i have both left and right speakers. the power wire i hard wired in directly to the fuse block. only draw back is not being able to use the "constant on" memory, station preset and clock acc wire as it is a constant draw on the bike's battery and killed it a couple of times so every time i started the bike up i would have to reset my stations and clock, or just use the "scan" button to get to my favorite stations and not worry about the clock.

i can take some pics of it, but i would have to take it out to show exactly how its inside the pocket. once i get my other bike back up and running i'll take some pics so you can see how i did it. if you want more room inside the fairing, i suggest you remove everything that has anything to do with the stereo except for the power amp which is VERY difficult to get to because its in the middle bottom inside the fairing just to the right of the headlight. removing all the stock wires and plugs removes about 11 pounds of weight from the fairing. to correct that, i took chunks of cinder blocks and put them evenly throughout the fairing, 5 1/2 pounds on each side under and in front of the fairing pockets.

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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby jjunkin1 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:59 pm

I am in the process of doing the same but I put mine in the left softpocket. My thinking was so I would have access while driving. Hindsight I should have put it in right side as I am using phone for controls anyway and I never use right pocket.

The biggest problem I have had is speakers. My dash liner was to small for my intended speakers so I glassed a new one and covered with vinyl. The main issue was speaker depthdue to farring design and the running lights. Had to scrap my originals speakers and found some low profile pyles. Not much lows but I think that has more to do with the open farring than speakers

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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby roadwanderer2 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:36 pm

maybe you can take a few pics and post them here so we can see how it looks? i use my left fairing pocket for my cell phone ciggs and lighter. the lighter i have i can be rolling down the road at 60 mph and be able to like up a cigarette. its one of those mini torch lighters. i dont have to pull over to the side of the road and stop to light one up.

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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby jjunkin1 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:34 pm

Here are a few pics of the dash and radio install. Don't like the white speakers but it's what I have for ow due to placement depth.
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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:40 am

i like the padded speaker pockets and the radio holder plate you installed. can you could paint the speaker grills black to match the speaker holders? that would look nice. did you cut the pocket bottom or remove the entire pocket.

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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby jjunkin1 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:12 am

I removed the pocket completly. I figured I would just hang on to it incase I ever went back to stock.

The foam speaker cup were purchased at autozone for like 10 bucks. My hope is that they would create a box effect and give me a little more bass. I really cant tell if it worked or not but it should keep the dust out of them.

I was worried about painting them as I didnt know want to damage the cones. The grills are made to the speaker body and are not removable. I do however have some grills off a set of kickers I may just screw down to tiddy it up some.

Unfortunatly during the project I discovered a potential blown head gasket so I will have to park it for awhile untill I get it fixed.

My wife was laughing at me because of the time and labor that went into the radio project and now I cant ride it. So I ordered one of thoes clamp on amped speaker kits for my little vstar. We will se who is laughing now lol.

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Re: WANTING TO UPGRADE STEREO SYSTEM

Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:19 am

trust me, i know what it feels like having to fix something with the expectations of using it when something else pops up and stops ya dead in your tracks. that was cruel of your wife laughing at your misfortune, but your right, but at least you'll be having some tunes on your other bike and take your turn to laugh at her lol.

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