86 honda goldwing GL 1200 SEi ignition switch


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86 honda goldwing GL 1200 SEi ignition switch

Postby roadwanderer2 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:57 am



first let me wish everyone a HAPPY 4TH OF JULY and try to be safe out there. now, can anyone please tell me how to remove the ignition switch on an 86 Honda goldwing GL1200 SEi? my ignition switch developed a short and i need to swap it out for another one. i've checked all the videos available including the "how-to" articles and none of them show or tell how to remove the ignition switch.

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Re: 86 honda goldwing GL 1200 SEi ignition switch

Postby roadwanderer2 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:08 am

ok, so i received my new ignition switch today, went out to the garage to check on the "ease-of-access" to the ignition switch, lol, which i CAN get to if i use my 1/4" drive ratchet and extension IF it were long enough to reach it from up under the fairing. well, guess what, i don't have an extension long enough to reach. now i have to drive 65 miles to my nearest harbor freight store to purchase a 3 pack of super long extentions :evil:.

too bad i cant ride my 1100 to the store, but this past Sunday while i was out riding it, the clutch cable broke. thank GOD i was close to home. i only had to run 3 red lights and 5 stop signs lol. so now i have BOTH bikes down :twisted:.

if it ain't one thing its another.

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Re: 86 honda goldwing GL 1200 SEi ignition switch

Postby twocams » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:18 pm

No place closer than 65 miles? Those arent that expensive to buy local....or is that local :shock:

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Re: 86 honda goldwing GL 1200 SEi ignition switch

Postby Rusty Bike » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:22 pm

I would not buy toilet paper at Harbor Freight! JUNK!

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Re: 86 honda goldwing GL 1200 SEi ignition switch

Postby roadwanderer2 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:38 pm

twocams wrote:No place closer than 65 miles? Those arent that expensive to buy local....or is that local :shock:


well, here's what i was going to get from HF.....http://www.harborfreight.com/3-pc-super ... 67975.html until i found a closer place to buy them. my local Lowe's which is only 12 miles away from where i live has them and for and extra 5 bucks i got 2-3 pc sets, one in 3/8th drive and the other in 1/4 inch drive so if i have to, i can put them all together to make one hellacious long extension lol.

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Postby roadwanderer2 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:40 pm

Rusty Bike wrote:I would not buy toilet paper at Harbor Freight! JUNK!


well, i can't complain about HF. i've never had a problem with anything i've purchased from them. hand tools, air tools etc etc, and if i did, i would take it back and exchange it or get a refund.

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Re: 86 honda goldwing GL 1200 SEi ignition switch

Postby roadwanderer2 » Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:23 am

ok, yesterday i installed my new ignition switch and tried to do some searching to find out why this bike keeps blowing the main fuse out when all of a sudden, i started seeing smoke coming from 3 different places along the wiring harness. it completely melted the wires to the solenoid switch along with one of the diodes that are on the back section of the harness and one of the wires that come directly off the fuse block harness. the only thing it didn't do was burst into flames. i was able to grab and remove the pos. cable from the solenoid to stop it from doing any further damage.

now i get nothing at all. total loss of electrical power even with the new ignition switch installed. i hope i didn't fry the ECU. this went from bad to worse in a heartbeat. i have no idea as to where to look now.

oh yeah, one other thing, when i walked back to the bike after i stopped it from wire smoking, i found my volt meter face plate was melted so bad you cant see it. the whole front of the plastic is melted.

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Re: 86 honda goldwing GL 1200 SEi ignition switch

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:41 am

Attach 2 wires to a spare headlight... use it in place of the fuse.A dead short will simply light it up... no fuse to blow and can't draw enough power to damage wiring.Start unplugging till the light goes dim.Easy way to identify a dead short.
I'd start with the regulator module first.

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Re: 86 honda goldwing GL 1200 SEi ignition switch

Postby twocams » Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:44 am

I only see 3 things you can do. Sell the bike as is, get another harness or start with an Ohm meter. i have a meter that has a buzzer on it. Sounds when there is continuity, so you dont have to watch the meter all the time. Think I would start at the bike volt meter check each wire. Open up the wire harness where need be.
Get the book out. Dont hook the battery back up until your sure "everything will be alright". Take your time this may take days..weeks.. even yrs. to make right. :roll:

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Re: 86 honda goldwing GL 1200 SEi ignition switch

Postby roadwanderer2 » Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:20 am

virgilmobile wrote:Attach 2 wires to a spare headlight... use it in place of the fuse.A dead short will simply light it up... no fuse to blow and can't draw enough power to damage wiring.Start unplugging till the light goes dim.Easy way to identify a dead short.
I'd start with the regulator module first.


the bike has absolutely no power. i wouldn't know where to connect it. the onboard volt meter is fried, i have no way to get any current to or from this bike.

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Re: 86 honda goldwing GL 1200 SEi ignition switch

Postby roadwanderer2 » Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:28 am

twocams wrote:I only see 3 things you can do. Sell the bike as is, get another harness or start with an Ohm meter. i have a meter that has a buzzer on it. Sounds when there is continuity, so you dont have to watch the meter all the time. Think I would start at the bike volt meter check each wire. Open up the wire harness where need be.
Get the book out. Dont hook the battery back up until your sure "everything will be alright". Take your time this may take days..weeks.. even yrs. to make right. :roll:

twocams


well, right now i have to weigh my options. A,i could sell it as is for $500 bucks and get back what i've put into it so far, B, have it taken to a bike shop and let them find the problem at a cost of only GOD knows how much, or C, part it out which would take a long time and take up a lot of space to break the bike down into sale-able parts.

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Re: 86 honda goldwing GL 1200 SEi ignition switch

Postby roadwanderer2 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:31 am

ok, i've decided what im going to do with this bike. im going to call a couple of local bike shops, have one of them come over, flat bed the bike to their shop, explain to them what the problem is and let them find the problem and fix it. i'll tell them they can take how ever long it takes to find and correct the problem as i have another bike to ride. i dont care if it takes a week, month, or this entire riding season to fix it, just fix it and call me when its finished. keep an account of the hours spent on it so i have a rough idea of what the cost will be, and if they need to replace some parts, i'll get the parts for them.

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Re: 86 honda goldwing GL 1200 SEi ignition switch

Postby twocams » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:40 am

Now you have just taken all the fun out of this little project. Not to say there goes your Social Security check each month. :o At $50-75 per hour it won't take long to eat up a grand or two. Good luck

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Re: 86 honda goldwing GL 1200 SEi ignition switch

Postby roadwanderer2 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:48 am

hey twocams, fun? lol, trust me, this ain't no fun. i really can't get into the electronics of this bike. i have a feeling this wouldn't be a "small project" once i've started on it. i'd rather leave it to someone that knows their way around a bike's electric system and has the proper tools to do the diagnostics. if it didn't have an onboard computer or fuel injection to worry about shorting out, i would take a stab at it, but once i saw my volt meter melted and some of the wires melted and smoking, i thought i'd better stop right there before i accidentally make the bike catch fire and become a total loss not to mention burning my garage down and also catching my other bike on fire at the same time because they are both in my garage.

i really like this bike and i dont want to sell or scrap it. i know it'll cost me a bundle, but its worth it because everything else on the bike works except for the cruse control and i can live without that.....for now anyway. who knows, it might need a complete wiring harness, which i can get if need be. if it costs me 4 or 5 hundred dollars it will be worth it knowing it was repaired correctly.

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