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installing new timing belts.

Postby roadwanderer2 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:39 pm



does anyone have any good ideas to keep the cam pulleys from moving once the tensioner pulleys are loosened up so they don't move. the motor is on my work table and both cam pulley arrows are perfectly lined up with both arrows straight up and pulley marks are dead on with the rear belt cover. i know the cam pulleys might move once the belts are loosened up, this is what im trying to avoid. any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: installing new timing belts.

Postby twocams » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:33 pm

I have seen pictures of chanel locks being used.Not sure how well they work. maybe some plastic tie wraps. Baling wire, duck tape

I dont know :(

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Re: installing new timing belts.

Postby roadwanderer2 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:51 pm

twocams wrote:I have seen pictures of chanel locks being used.Not sure how well they work. maybe some plastic tie wraps. Baling wire, duck tape

I dont know :(


thanks twocams, i'll keep those things in mind. i used "C" clamps on my other motor when i changed the belts, but they slipped off and i had a heck of a time to realign the pulleys. i was also considering drilling small holes behind the pulleys and using zip ties, but the ties would have to be on the large size and i really didn't want to drill large holes in the backs of the timing belt covers. i was also thinking about using rope and tying the pulleys to the table legs.

anyone else have any "proven" ways to keep the cam pulleys from moving while the motor is off the frame?

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Re: installing new timing belts.

Postby roadwanderer2 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:56 pm

well, got the new timing belts on this morning. whereas the right side pulley moved clockwise about 10*, the left pulley didn't move at all. after realigning the right side pulley with the "up" arrow at the top, i turned the motor via the flywheel and checked the "T1" mark with both left and right cam pulleys and they were perfect. now all im waiting on are the new clutch cover and rear engine cover gaskets to get here so i can start putting the motor back onto the frame.

I marked in the owners manual the date and mileage that this work was done so i have a record of it and if i do sell it, the next owner will also have this as a record of work done.

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Re: installing new timing belts.

Postby loopy » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:44 am

Can I please ask why you have replaced the timing belt.

Is it because of a time limit on the old belts OR was there an issue happening that needed new belts.

I am asking because my 1200 has not had new belts for at least 7 years and possibly a lot more than that and has backfiring happening.

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Re: installing new timing belts.

Postby roadwanderer2 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:08 am

'mornin loopy.

well, according to "mother Honda", and what the owners manuals recommendation for servicing, these belts should be replaced every 10 years/30,000 miles. since the bike has just over 82,000 miles on it and its well over 10 years old, (30 to be exact), and i have no idea if or whenever the belts were ever changed, and i had the motor off the bike to put in new start clutch parts i thought it would be a good idea to change them now because i ride my bikes, (83 and an 86) all year round and i dont need a belt snapping while im riding. would hate to have a motor go south just because of a belt snapping.

i suggest you take a look at your belts when you get the chance, but backfiring can be caused by a lot of different things on these wings. the next step after you look at your belts would be check the timing.

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Re: installing new timing belts.

Postby loopy » Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:03 pm

thanks Stuart.
I always assumed the only method of checking the timing on the goldwing is making sure both belts are aligned and the crank also at TDC
is there another way of adjusting the timing?

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Re: installing new timing belts.

Postby roadwanderer2 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:12 am

none that im aware of. make sure the "T1" mark is lined up with the lines on the engine casing. check this article out, it should give you an idea of where the marks are and how to line them up................

im sorry, this was an incomplete posting. check the posting below.

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Re: installing new timing belts.

Postby roadwanderer2 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:28 am

none that im aware of. make sure the "T1" mark is lined up with the lines on the engine casing. check this article out, it should give you an idea of where the marks are and how to line them up................http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/10- ... orial.html scroll about half way down the page and it will show you the "T1" mark on the engine casing and where it has to be.

most of the 1100,1200, and 1500 have the same alignment marks so you can follow this information for your bike.

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Re: installing new timing belts.

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:52 am

loopy wrote:Can I please ask why you have replaced the timing belt.

Is it because of a time limit on the old belts OR was there an issue happening that needed new belts.

I am asking because my 1200 has not had new belts for at least 7 years and possibly a lot more than that and has backfiring happening.


It's time to change your belts, especially if you don't know when they were last done. A failed belt often means an engine damaged beyond repair.

There is usually no indication whatsoever that a belt needs to be changed. They don't wear visually, and properly adjusted, the teeth do not wear. They are designed not to stretch at all, so they don't crack with age like regular serpentine belts. They wear on the inside, where the fiberglass strands live - where you can't see them. A belt that is going to fail the next time you start the bike can look exactly the same as one that will run for another 50,000 miles. When they do fail, they usually just break suddenly and catastrophically with no warning, and that's the end.

So while I doubt your backfiring is due to belts (it COULD be - if one has slipped, but if that's the case, you've likely got other issues) - but I would still STRONGLY encourage you to change yours.




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