Harsh shifting


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walker70
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Harsh shifting

Post by walker70 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:40 pm



Hi,this seems to be an occasional problem,when I shift from 1st to 2nd it wants to sound a bit clunky and sometimes grind a bit but only when driving it,when I have it parked and shift through the gears it does not do it,a mechanic I know says that it might be a bent shift fork or maybe the gears for going from 1st to 2nd are worn,but it seems to me that it would shift harshly either way,whether I drive it or shift while parked,I have rebuilt and bled the clutch master cylinder and the slave cylinder,any thoughts on this because I know if it is anything transmission related I will be checking Ebay for a complete engine because the price and labor for someone to rebuild the transmission is way more than I can get a complete engine and swap it out,but I will watch closely when looking cause I do not want to get an engine that may have same problem.



geraldm
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Re: Harsh shifting

Post by geraldm » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:09 pm

Mine shifted quite clunky after going to a 15 - 40 HD engine oil I went back to a 10x40 it helped considerably. These bike do not have a sincro- mesh Trans . The gear simply slides from one cluster to the next and catches on 2 cogs on the sides of the gear so the bike needs to be shifted with authority and not a slow light shift as it will be clunky.. I have read a few posts on this and it just seems to be the nature of the beast. I have also read a few posts about rough noisy shifting when some guys go to a synthetic engine oil.. not saying that is a reason just what I read

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Re: Harsh shifting

Post by Aussie81Interstate » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:33 pm

When you are changing from first to second and second to third etc...put a small amount of upward pressure on the gear shift lever with your foot prior to pulling the clutch lever in and changing to second, see if that works.

walker70
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Re: Harsh shifting

Post by walker70 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:14 am

I have noticed that since I started driving the bike that it does seem to be getting better,not totally but better,also I did use 10/40 oil as it says in the manual,and I have found that it seems to shift better when using a firm touch on the gear shifter and I will check on the oil to see if I put synthetic or regular oil,just don't remember without looking at the container,just a sign of me getting older I guess,also I will try putting a little pressure on the shifter before pulling the lever in,thanks guys.

geraldm
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Re: Harsh shifting

Post by geraldm » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:50 pm

Well me thinks if you used synthetic you would remember as it is three times the price.

walker70
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Re: Harsh shifting

Post by walker70 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:12 am

Hey,you could remember that some of us are not what we used to be, I will be 60 in a month or so,on that note I checked and I used conventional oil when I did the oil change and you are right the price should have been a clue. :lol:

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Re: Harsh shifting

Post by CrystalPistol » Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:17 am

I've used 10w40 in my 1200 for many years, both conventional .... and at times, synthetics ..... then two-three years ago switched to Dello 15w40 and my '85 shifts really slick with the Dello!

You say:
I have rebuilt and bled the clutch master cylinder and the slave cylinder,any thoughts on this
Where in the clutch lever travel do you start engagement? Is there any "free play". Clutch should start releasing very soon after you start your squeeze. By half pull, it should be about totally free.
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walker70
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Re: Harsh shifting

Post by walker70 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:14 pm

Hi,never seen Dello in my area but I will look for it,the clutch is releasing as it should and as I have been driving the bike it is beginning to shift much better,thanks. :D



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