Engine Removal 85 LTD


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Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby fastf » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:16 am



Ok Wingers I would like to know is there anyone removed the engine on a 85 LTD. I read somewhere that you had to remove the right timing cover and remove the right timing belt sprocket is that true? Because the service manuel by Clymer on 1200s is so vague it ain't funny it leads you all over the place. Like go to chapter 12 to take fuel injection system and then go to chapter 5 to remove the radiator. I want a more accurate tare down not leading me all over the place and that article about taking the right timing cover off and the timing belt sprocket .What I also want to know do you have to take the complete fuel injection system to remove or is removing a 1200 ltd engine many trial and error I want to know before a drag this bad boy out.



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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:09 am

The best favor you can do yourself is to toss that Clymers manual in the trash and get a Honda service manual. There really is a huge difference, and the Honda manual, while far from perfect, will get you where you need to be.

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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby fastf » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:39 pm

Thanks and May God Bless and I'm thinking the same thing too.

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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby actionpack » Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:02 pm

fastf wrote:Thanks and May God Bless and I'm thinking the same thing too.
i was looking that manaul over 1 day and it is nuts the way they got ya flipping from 1 end of the book to the other , anything has to be better then clymers
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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby fastf » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:03 am

Yes I know pain in the butt. I don't know who wrote it but he hasn't worked on a Goldwing using that book as reference I bet ya.

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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby Right Winger » Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:11 pm

I would highly reccomend removing the R timing cover, (and not the sprocket and belt) it will give you some well needed wiggle room. You do not have to remove the carburation/injection system. Just remove the 8 bolts from the 4 intake ports and disconnect the air tubes. And tie the intake manifold to the frame (I used a couple bungee cords) when you lower the engine it will stay in place. Don't go by the Clymer/aftermarket manuals. Get a Honda manual (if you need one) I even found a couple short cuts that the Honda manual didn't mention.

This is not a bad job it looks worst than it really is. Heck I am an auto mechanic by trade and I have installed engines in a lot of cars and this is no worst than some of thoses. Here is a few pics that might be usefull to you
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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby luckychucky60 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:14 pm

Wow, reminds me of Humpty Dumpty; Can't wait to see it run again. Wish I had your skills.
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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby Right Winger » Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:22 pm

luckychucky60 wrote:Wow, reminds me of Humpty Dumpty; Can't wait to see it run again. Wish I had your skills.

Oh it's back together again,and running good. I can't wait to get the tires on it and really put it on the road This is the first time I had it apart, I misplaced the pics from the second time I had it apart which was about a month ago.
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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby luckychucky60 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:00 pm

Whole bike pic looks better than motor on jack pic. Good job.
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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby Right Winger » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:11 pm

:) Thanks, I am still working out some small quirks here and there but it is going to be a good bike I can tell when I ride it :lol:

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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby fastf » Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:02 am

I like the way you showed me what it looked out you have something on your bike I don't have is engine covers. They look good i just wondered if they were a aftermarket item for the bike in 85 or did the LTD come with them on it. I hope when I tear mine down and back i hope it looks as good as yours in the picture lol. Have a Blessed day

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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby Right Winger » Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:06 pm

:D Those covers were (aftermarket) made by Markland and are no longer available. There is a pair on E-bay right now.The only thing is that the guy don't have the mounting brackets . But they can be easily fabricated. When you do yours (engine out) take your time pay close attenion and do yourself a favor as i did. Go to the dollar store and get some cheap sandwich bags and a marker pen.

And when you take bolts off bag em and tag em, it makes going back together easier. Because you won't be familiar with the bolts the first time doing this job, and you'll want everything to go back as they came off. But it is doable and you will be proud of yourself to boot when you are done. If you should need any pointers well you know where to come :lol: Thanks for the compliments on mine :D

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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby fastf » Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:09 pm

Thanks that is what I will do also.

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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby badwing1200 » Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:34 am

On all GL1200's its better to remove the right side camshaft pulley and timing belt, otherwise they will probably get damaged when you pull the engine forward off the drive shaft. There is an excellent engine removal video and photo tutorial on this page:

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/1200engineremoval.htm

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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby tech1 » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:37 pm

Hi here is anouther thing I saw the Honda (car) mechanics do at the dealer I worked at. They used a cupcake pan and put the bolts in the different holes and marked them as to where they came. I am a GM mechanic and now a city fleet mechanic and borrowed one of my wifes old cupcake pans for work after seeing them and it helps get bolts back in the correct place. I believe in doing it right and replace ALL bolts. Anouther idea that might help.
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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:02 pm

tech1 wrote:Hi here is anouther thing I saw the Honda (car) mechanics do at the dealer I worked at. They used a cupcake pan and put the bolts in the different holes and marked them as to where they came. I am a GM mechanic and now a city fleet mechanic and borrowed one of my wifes old cupcake pans for work after seeing them and it helps get bolts back in the correct place. I believe in doing it right and replace ALL bolts. Anouther idea that might help.
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A cheaper way is to get some egg trays - the big ones that have places to hold 30-odd eggs. Lots of different places to hold bolts, nuts and screws, and you can even write on them in marker if you want.


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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby firstwing85 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:56 pm

hey Fast, I had my engine out twice this year to do the stator and I had no trouble getting it out with both timing covers in place.
yes you do need to pull the fuel injection systom off to get the engine out because there is not enough room for you to get the engine out with the injection systom in place, I tried to pull the engine with it on the engine but there was no way to get it out.
just take the Fuel injectors off and be sure to number them so you get them back on in the right order,
after you have the injectors off then the intake systom comes off quite easy.
if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask..

here are a couple of my pics.
took the belt covers off after the engine was out to check the belts.
took the belt covers off after the engine was out to check the belts.
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here it is finished and running great.
here it is finished and running great.
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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby fastf » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:27 pm

Thanks with all the info.But luckly it wasn't the stator but the rectifier but I still bought a new stator too and it's still in the box so if I ever need it I got it.

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Re: Engine Removal 85 LTD

Postby englishted » Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:07 pm

Removing the engine is very similar on all the 1200 models. This one shows it done on a Standard model: http://www.goldwingfacts.com/1200engineremoval.htm







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