Broken starter shaft - is such a thing?


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Broken starter shaft - is such a thing?

Postby dougdunn » Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:12 am



86 GL 1200 Interstate. Won't start from starter, starter just spins. Shop says "starter shaft" is broken and they can't get a part to replace it. Bike in NY, me in VA. Will have it down here soon to work on myself. Also need a shop manual. Doug



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Re: Broken starter shaft - is such a thing?

Postby goldtr6c » Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:43 pm

Maybe I'm wrong but it sounds like they are trying to take advantage of your location. If you push start it, then get it warmed up, will the starter then enguage? It may be just a starter clutch gummed up with old thick sludge. It doesn't take very much sludge residue to do this so don't picture the thick black paste we used to find in the old car engines years ago. If you can get it to your location, put some Seafoam or MMO in the crankcase, run it all day if posible then change the oil/filter. Now while its running (idle speed), you can punch the starter button work the starter clutch. This won't hurt anything on this style starter system.

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Re: Broken starter shaft - is such a thing?

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:29 am

Exactly what he said. This type of failure is pretty common in these bikes. Have a look at this post: Starter spins but doesn't turn the engine

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Re: Broken starter shaft - is such a thing?

Postby dougdunn » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:23 am

goldtr6c wrote:Maybe I'm wrong but it sounds like they are trying to take advantage of your location. If you push start it, then get it warmed up, will the starter then enguage? It may be just a starter clutch gummed up with old thick sludge. It doesn't take very much sludge residue to do this so don't picture the thick black paste we used to find in the old car engines years ago. If you can get it to your location, put some Seafoam or MMO in the crankcase, run it all day if posible then change the oil/filter. Now while its running (idle speed), you can punch the starter button work the starter clutch. This won't hurt anything on this style starter system.


Stupid question - if starter won't work how do I get it started to run it with the Seafoam or MMO in it? No way I can push start this behemoth.

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Re: Broken starter shaft - is such a thing?

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:08 pm

If you are near a hill, then you're golden. Otherwise, get a few helpers to help push, shift it into first or second gear, make sure the choke is on, and go at it!

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Re: Broken starter shaft - is such a thing?

Postby dougdunn » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:33 am

Going to try to bump start on the hill in front of my house this weekend. Friend told me to drain all fuel from carbs and tank and replace with hi-test, new plugs, new air filter - everything to allow an easy start. Question - is there any way to drain the carbs other than removing the assembly? Oh, I'm putting MMO in the crankcase, just in case I do get it started! Wish me luck.

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Re: Broken starter shaft - is such a thing?

Postby maestro319 » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:42 am

Keep us updated. I, for one, would like to know how it turns out.

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Re: Broken starter shaft - is such a thing?

Postby dougdunn » Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:45 pm

My son and I just tried to push the GL out to the road and up the hill and almost couldn't move it. Maybe we are just weak, but it felt more like the brakes were sticking. Other than getting more muscle (friends and Budweiser!), any other suggestions? I would really like to try to get this thing running and try the Seafoam in it (now loaded) and see if I can break loose the starter before I start in pulling the whole engine over the winter. Doug :|

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Re: Broken starter shaft - is such a thing?

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:47 am

If it's on the center stand, can you rotate the rear wheel by hand? How about if someone sits on the back so it rocks back onto the rear wheel, can you rotate the front wheel? If both are free, you know it's not brakes sticking.




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