1986 Honda GL1200 I Rear Tire Change


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1986 Honda GL1200 I Rear Tire Change

Post by Goldwing*1986 » Tue May 22, 2018 6:08 pm



HI GWers

Looking for insight on changing rear tire on my 86 GL1200 full dress. I managed to get the bike off the floor.
I can’t access axle bolt with muffler in the way. I removed the shock mounting bolts but the swing arm will not move.
Any input would be appreciated..
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Re: 1986 Honda GL1200 I Rear Tire Change

Post by kwild » Tue May 22, 2018 7:55 pm

The axle bolt can be removed by moving the tire Up. You'll need to move the rear shocks from the lower mounting position. I use a 2x4 and different thicknesses of lumber and a mallet to raise the rear tire. Make sure your in neutral. Go slowly and make sure the bike is secure.
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Re: 1986 Honda GL1200 I Rear Tire Change

Post by Goldwing*1986 » Tue May 22, 2018 8:21 pm

Thx Kwild.
Do you have to loosen the swing arm but located on the swing arm?
I took out the shock mounting bolts but that swing arm doesn’t move at all?
Thx!

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Re: 1986 Honda GL1200 I Rear Tire Change

Post by kwild » Tue May 22, 2018 9:13 pm

Don't need to loosen the swing arm, but you need to remove the lower shocks from the swing arm. They have to come out of the mounting points on the swing arm, only then can you raise the rear wheel.
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Re: 1986 Honda GL1200 I Rear Tire Change

Post by Goldwing*1986 » Tue May 22, 2018 9:24 pm

Hi Kwild,
That’s where I am stuck at this step. I took the shocks mount bolts out but the coil shocks are newer but will not move in those saddle mounts.
Can I adjust or decompress the tension on the shocks first to get to release from this point?
Once I figured out to this step, I should be able to get the wheel out.

Thx for info.

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Re: 1986 Honda GL1200 I Rear Tire Change

Post by Rednaxs60 » Wed May 23, 2018 1:35 am

You have not mentioned if you have the standard OEM air shocks. If so you do not have to remove the passenger foot boards as your second picture shows. Once you get the shock(s) bottom bolt out, give the swing arm a rap with a piece of wood and the swing arm should drop. You have to disconnect the rear caliper from the caliper plate as well and tie out of the way, do the same for the shocks. Once you get the brake caliper and shocks out of the way, raise the swing arm until you get the axle bolt high enough to clear the exhaust.

Take lots of pictures for reference.

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Re: 1986 Honda GL1200 I Rear Tire Change

Post by grand rouge » Wed May 23, 2018 3:32 pm

Might be late chiming in here. Chances are...yer already done. But....just in case not finished....

Is there an inch or so of daylight under the tire? When changing tire on my LTD, I place a 1/2 or a 3/4 inch thick board under center stand to get tire clear of floor by an inch or so.

Left bag and appropriate fender parts removed. Bolts out of both rear shocks at swing arm with this procedure left side:....... First loosen or remove the caliper bolts....3 of em I think. Move caliper up and out of the way.

Loosen and remove axle nut then the axle pinch bolt on the left side. Additionally, you may have to let air out of tire.....clearance issue when wheel assembly moves left. Anyway....as Ernest said..others too.... swing arm might require a bit of persuasion to move downward thus allowing you to move shocks 'back from mount, secure them, then raise the wheel assembly high enough so axle can clear exhaust.

Push or pull wheel assembly to left, will drop down.

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Re: 1986 Honda GL1200 I Rear Tire Change

Post by Goldwing*1986 » Wed May 23, 2018 6:01 pm

Hello GWers
I’m close yet still far off.. I’m at the point where the bike has progressive shocks are moving. I removed the mounting bolts from the shocks also. I lifted the back tire off the ground. I used a long wooden handle and gave it a few good jolts but the swing arm isn’t moving.
I might breakdown and reassemble it and nurse to a bike shop after tomorrow night..
Thx for all the input.

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Re: 1986 Honda GL1200 I Rear Tire Change

Post by kwild » Wed May 23, 2018 6:55 pm

If they are air assist shocks, remove all the air out. you could try a standard screwdriver and carefully help the shock release itself for their mounts. Approach from the back of the bike and gently move the shock out of position. Prolly just old rubber stuck on the brackets, they can be stubborn.
Get creative, it just needs a bit of persuasion.
On re-assembly, be very careful not to strip the hub when re installing the right side shock bolt.
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Re: 1986 Honda GL1200 I Rear Tire Change

Post by grand rouge » Wed May 23, 2018 7:21 pm

If the shocks are not the air assisted Progressives.......then of course no air pressure to bleed off. Fair to assume that the shocks are not 'longer than stock' eye to eye?

I am with others here that the lower mounts are essentially 'stubborn.'

A way to get swing arm to possible release the mounts....making sure first that your Wing is secure.

2 people here..... Have you got a 2 x 4 or a steel pipe.... 5 feet long...or so.... place it through the rear wheel at lowest point. Press down both ends at once...... Swinger has got to go down.....

Another option.....and depends on condition of exhaust studs / nuts at heads...... drop the exhaust./Anyway......just thinking out loud.

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Re: 1986 Honda GL1200 I Rear Tire Change

Post by Goldwing*1986 » Wed May 23, 2018 8:39 pm

Hi GWer’s
I hit the shock lower mounts with some liquid wrench.
I’m going to try the 2x4 thru the tire and push with 2 people tomorrow.
Those shocks are quite stubborn to move from the swing arm.
Thx again GWers for all your suggestions..

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Re: 1986 Honda GL1200 I Rear Tire Change

Post by Rednaxs60 » Wed May 23, 2018 10:00 pm

Give the swing arm a good crack with a 2X2 and hammer - alternate sides. It will come loose. The rear wheel should be at least 1 inch off the ground when on the centre stand.

The air shock has an eye to eye of approximately 13.5 inches, 14.5 inch shocks will fit, but the rear wheel will be on the floor when on the centre stand so lots of room to move the swing arm with OEM air shocks installed.

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Re: 1986 Honda GL1200 I Rear Tire Change

Post by gervais » Sat May 26, 2018 7:25 pm

if i may add,
i remooved the left saddle ,,box to have a better access at the rear caliper and all the hardware around.

gervais



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