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fuel pump replacement

Postby daljaz » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:39 am



The fuel pump on my '84 Aspencade died and after reading some posts about an alternative replacement decided to go with a pump for a '85 Honda Prelude, which was suggested by another Goldwing owner. It costs @ $60 which was cheap compared to a new OEM. This pump bolted up using the original mounting holes, and the fuel lines were located in the same place as the OEM pump. The OEM pump was chrome and the replacement was not and was larger than the OEM. I found a round, chrome exhaust extension that after removing about 3 inches from the length, it slipped over the new pump and fit tight enough that it will stay without vibrating off. I now have a chrome fuel pump at a fraction of the cost of a new one from the dealer.


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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby maestro319 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:38 am

How about a picture or two?
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby daljaz » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:56 pm

I am not sure how to post a picture on this forum, but anyone who would like a picture of the fuel pump/exhaust extension, send me your email and I will send you some pics. daljaz1@aol.com
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Re: fuel pump replacement

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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby daljaz » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:13 pm

Here are pictures of the fuel pump covered with an exhaust extension
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby littlebeaver » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:53 pm

Brilliant, absolutely Brilliant..
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby ekcyclerepair » Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:08 pm

Very nice setup. :D
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby 86GW1200 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:14 pm

It looks like they use a bullet type connector? Which is positive and which is negative? I think I'll head up to the store and grab one. They quoted me 62 bucks...
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby daljaz » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:42 pm

The solid black wire on the replacement pump is the ground and connects to the green wire on the original pump. The striped wire is the hot lead and connects to the striped wire on the replacement. I used the original plug...cut the wires and spliced them and used heat shrink. The fuel hose connectors on the replacement pump are larger, but I replaced all the fuel lines with new hose and they stretched to fit.
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby 86GW1200 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:46 pm

Cool, thanks. I had to order it even though the web said they had it in stock :( It should be in Monday.
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby saverchoices » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:02 pm

I have an 86 Aspencade with a fuel pump that just started making a "clicking" noise! I first thought it was a lifter, but when I felt the pump it was very evident the clicking was coming from within the pump. I'm wondering two things. First, is the pump in the process of dying? Two, I see where a person found a Honda "vehicle" fuel pump that worked! How could I find one that would work on my 86? I have called J. C. Whitney and All Super Bike and no one can help with a new fuel pump and/or a repair kit...

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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby daljaz » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:48 pm

A fuel pump for a 1985 Honda Prelude will fit. I used one on my '84 Aspencade. Check the pictures and info in my previous posts. I was able to order one from AutoZone for around $60. Any auto parts store should be able to order one. The automotive pump fits the orginal motorcycle mounting holes...the inlet and outlet tubes are a little larger than the original motorcycle pump, but by using new fuel lines which you should replace anyway, they will stretch to fit the larger tubes on the auto pump. I used a chrome round exhaust pipe extension, ( I cut off about 3 inches) and it covered the replacement pump and now it looks like I have a chrome fuel pump. Hope this infor works.
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby saverchoices » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:28 pm

Yes, I read your post and I will follow your lead and see if it will work on my 86.

Did your fuel pump start make a clicking noise before it stopped? My fuel pump has just start doing it and it still runs as well as it did before it started making the clicking noise.

Thanks for your reply.

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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby daljaz » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:30 pm

No, my fuel pump just quit pumping. It also began to leak fuel before it died.
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby saverchoices » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:24 pm

Thank you for your reply.

I was wondering how you knew a Honda vehicle fuel pump would work on your cycle???

The price I was told at a cycle shop was $168.00...so...yes, you did very well for $60!

Thanks again for your info.

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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby daljaz » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:43 am

I read about this exchange on another GoldWing site. Some have used a universal type pump that has the same cfm and pressures, but they are about the same price @ $45-50 and would need some additional fittings for the hoses, as well as some adapting to mount, so the price would be about the same as the pump for the Prelude which is pretty much "plug and play."
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby saverchoices » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:23 am

Possibly too many questions...but...how did you know the "Honda Prelude" fuel pump would pump the correct pressure(?)/right time(?) as the OEM fuel pump for the Goldwing would???

Thanks again for your help and for being on the "forum" with your info.

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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby daljaz » Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:33 pm

According to the info I obtained the orginal pump needed 3-5 psi. The Honda Prelude pump falls in the category..4-5 psi. I did some research on the pressure...for each one. The 4 cylinder, carburtered Prelude is the pump to use. I've had it on my GW for about 2 weeks...have driven it enough to run 2 tanks of gas....it is working flawlessly. In fact, the performance seems smoother. My son rode it the other day and commented about how better it ran. Probably my original fuel pump was not operating correctly and I did not know it until it quit. It was leaking some fuel out of the end, which should have been a clue that it was faulty.
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby saverchoices » Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:52 pm

"daljaz"...THANK YOU for all your information. I've thought my bike was a little sluggish at times and possibly it is the fuel pump that is the cause. Once again you have been very informative and it's been a joy to read your information.

Happy Thanksgiving.

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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby daljaz » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:14 pm

Hi Bob, you are welcome. I am all for saving money when I can and am glad to pass on any information that may help others to do the same. Happy Thanksgiving to you.
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby rodsebring » Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:34 pm

Thanks from me too, daljaz...I've got an 86 Aspencade that just started clicking yesterday and I thought to myself that it was time to adjust the valves.....I think I'll probably get the Prelude pump anyway, the bike has been a bit sluggish as of late...Rod in ABQ
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby saverchoices » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:36 pm

rodsebring wrote:Thanks from me too, daljaz...I've got an 86 Aspencade that just started clicking yesterday and I thought to myself that it was time to adjust the valves.....I think I'll probably get the Prelude pump anyway, the bike has been a bit sluggish as of late...Rod in ABQ


I put Amsoil motorcylce oil in about 500 miles ago and now my bike is unbelievable quiet while running. In fact, right after I had put it in, I was riding and realized something was not right! Then I realized the "noise" was gone! YEA Amsoil!!!

The fuel pump has just about given up its "ghost"!!! I just haven't decided yet to take the fuel pump off and take it to a parts store to get it replaced with the Prelude pump...

Thanks for all the support here!!! Merry Christmas all...
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby saverchoices » Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:56 am

saverchoices wrote:Possibly too many questions...but...how did you know the "Honda Prelude" fuel pump would pump the correct pressure(?)/right time(?) as the OEM fuel pump for the Goldwing would???

Thanks again for your help and for being on the "forum" with your info.

Bob



December 25, 2010...I've been looking at the three pictures of your handy work on the Honda Prelude fuel pump and I noticed a couple of things that seem strange to me. First, my fuel pump is held on by a chrome strap that is held in place by two chrome screws...one on each side of the original fuel pump. I don't see the same holding mechanism in the pictures you supplied??? The next thing I noticed is at the end of the chrome cover towards the motor there are tiny chrome screws? Were they originally on the fuel pump, or are they put on by you when you attached your chrome pipe to the fuel pump and/or black (back end) of the fuel pump?

I'm hoping I can run the fuel lines to the carburetors without too much trouble. Any hints on how it can be accomplished with the least amount of trouble? I'm sure the gas tank has a shut off valve so I can disconnect the fuel line from it. Any help on this area?

Thanks again for all your help.

Merry Christmas...

Bob :D
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby daljaz » Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:23 pm

Hi Bob, I am glad to anwer your questions. First, the replacement pump is larger diameter than the original and the replacement has built on brackets that line up with the original mounting holes, so the chrome strap type bracket is not necessary. The screws you see toward the engine are screws on the replacement pump. The original fuel lines are smaller than the inlet and outlet tubes of the original pump, but I replaced them and the new rubber fuel line stretched to fit the larger inlet and outlet tubes of the replacement pump without much difficulty. Some silicon spray or other lubricant may ease the installation of the hoses. Of course it is necessarry to use good hose clamps. The chrome exhuast pipe was cut off to the length of the new pump and it fit so tightly that it was not necessary to attach it. The wires to the pump run underneath and inside the chrome exhaust pipe at the bottom. Just be careful not to cut or skin the wire insulation when the exhaust pipe is forced on. Finally, yes, there is a fuel shut off valve that will stop the flow of fuel until the job is completed. Hope these answers will help. If you need more info, do not hesitate to contact me.
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Re: fuel pump replacement

Postby saverchoices » Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:39 pm

daljaz wrote:Hi Bob, I am glad to anwer your questions. First, the replacement pump is larger diameter than the original and the replacement has built on brackets that line up with the original mounting holes, so the chrome strap type bracket is not necessary. The screws you see toward the engine are screws on the replacement pump. The original fuel lines are smaller than the inlet and outlet tubes of the original pump, but I replaced them and the new rubber fuel line stretched to fit the larger inlet and outlet tubes of the replacement pump without much difficulty. Some silicon spray or other lubricant may ease the installation of the hoses. Of course it is necessarry to use good hose clamps. The chrome exhuast pipe was cut off to the length of the new pump and it fit so tightly that it was not necessary to attach it. The wires to the pump run underneath and inside the chrome exhaust pipe at the bottom. Just be careful not to cut or skin the wire insulation when the exhaust pipe is forced on. Finally, yes, there is a fuel shut off valve that will stop the flow of fuel until the job is completed. Hope these answers will help. If you need more info, do not hesitate to contact me.



You are the man!!! Thanks for all the info. I can't say I'm looking forward to the challenge, but I am going to tackle the situation and hopefully my experience will "LOOK" like yours! i"d really like to be riding a 2011 Goldwing Aspencade ;) I'm from Little Rock, AR...where do you live?

Wishing you a blessed Christmas.

Bob


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