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LED lights

Postby starfleetengineer » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:32 am



If I was to change all my lights, except headlight to LED would I have to run the load equalzer for just the turn signals, or for all the light? I am sure I am reading the descrip right in the Dennis Kirk book. I thought just the turn would need it. Does it also effect the brake lights?


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Re: LED lights

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:45 am

The load equalizer is just a resistor that draws power and generates heat, to simulate a regular light bulb. The reason for this is that the mechanical flasher relay depends on the current being drawn by the turn signal light bulbs to heat up a strip inside it, and actuate the flashing mechanism. LEDs don't draw enough power to heat up this little strip, so the lights won't flash. The load equalizer just causes more current to be drawn (and wasted as heat) in order to actuate the flasher.

Only the turn signals have this requirement.

If you are replacing your lights with LEDs in order to save power, then using a load equalizer completely negates this power saving.

The best (and easiest) thing to do is to also replace your mechanical flasher relay with an electronic one. The electronic flasher uses an electronic circuit to regulate the flashing instead of a heated strip. That way, you don't need the load equalizer - just plug the LEDs in place of the light bulbs, plug the electronic flasher in place of the old mechanical one, and you're good to go.

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Re: LED lights

Postby thrasherg » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:33 pm

As WingAdmin states, you only need the load for the indicators (all other bulbs will work fine). If you replace the indicators with LED's then also replace the flasher relay with an electronic relay and then you won't need the loads!! It will also be kinder on your electrical system if you don't have the loads!! As mentioned they are just high power resistors used to waste power to make the old mechanical flasher relay work..

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Re: LED lights

Postby starfleetengineer » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:46 pm

Thats what I thought. But on my V65 Magna, it had an electronic flash. I put led's on it and the flashed like a strobe light. And the flasher on the wing looks like the same one.. Now I'm confused.... :?
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Re: LED lights

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:10 pm

If it flashed like a strobe light when you put LEDs on it, then it was not an electronic flasher. That's a classic sign of a mechanical flasher.

Have a look at this post for an explanation why.

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Re: LED lights

Postby lewfoer » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:48 am

When I replaced the taillights on my GL1200 the taillight indicator light came on, on the dash but the lights work fine. I have not changed the turn signal lights yet. If anybody knows which type of flasher to replace the old one with please let me know.

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Re: LED lights

Postby thrasherg » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:48 am

WingAdmin wrote:If it flashed like a strobe light when you put LEDs on it, then it was not an electronic flasher. That's a classic sign of a mechanical flasher.

Have a look at this post for an explanation why.


I would be a little carefull with that statement. :roll: . I have seen electronic flashers that do check the current and flash faster depending on the load (they usually have two speeds, normal and fast) the fast speed is to let the driver know that a bulb has failed. They are not that common but some electronic flasher relays are load sensitive!! An electro mechanical relay is completely load dependant in that the flashing speed will be totally dependant on the load placed on it, where as electronic flasher relays either don't care about the load or have 2 speeds, normal and fast (to indicate a failed bulb). You need to locate the common type that is not load sensitive, but maybe your Magma had the rare load sensitive electronic flasher relay or as Wingadmin suggests it wasn't an electronic flasher on your magma.. None of this really matters, just get a new electronic flasher relay and you will be good to go.. :D

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Re: LED lights

Postby starfleetengineer » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:32 am

The only thing I can tell you about that flasher is that I opened it up cause I thought it was bad. It was a circuit board with no mechanical breaker points. That on is identical to the one I have on my 84gl1200. Granted, I want to switch to the poorboy alt system for more power, but I think the led is a much brighter and cleaner light. We now put led headlights and tail lights on our forklifts and the way they look is unbelieveable! THE COST IS OUTRAGIOUS! But if I could get take off's, I'd use the for driving lights... So, would I look for a true electronic flash for the old girl then?

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Re: LED lights

Postby thrasherg » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:05 pm

With the exception of headlights, LED's are always better than standard filament bulbs. LED's are brighter, produce a more visible spectrum of light, use less power, are less sensitive to mechanical vibration and last much longer.. At some point even the headlight LED bulbs will be great, but today we cannot produce LED's of sufficient power to be a realistic headlight replacement (Have to use HID today!!).. I would highly recomend replacing all bulbs with LED's on a motorbike, especially the older wings which have a weak electrical system to begin with..

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Re: LED lights

Postby Dave Hartshorn » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:41 pm

What LEDs would you recommend. I've read a number of blogs on LEDs and many state they're not nearly as bright as regular filaments. Any suggestions as to make/model of LEDs would be helpful -- I'd really rather not try "trial and error" given the costs. Thx.

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Re: LED lights

Postby lewfoer » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:08 pm

www.LEDLight.com is another good source for lights. I do know that you need to get the same color LED as the lenses of the light. I ordered 41mm red high power festoon bulbs for the brake lights in the trunk and they were too long. I was able to make them work but I would order the next shorter length.

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Re: LED lights

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:43 pm

thrasherg wrote:With the exception of headlights, LED's are always better than standard filament bulbs. LED's are brighter, produce a more visible spectrum of light, use less power, are less sensitive to mechanical vibration and last much longer.. At some point even the headlight LED bulbs will be great, but today we cannot produce LED's of sufficient power to be a realistic headlight replacement (Have to use HID today!!)..


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Re: LED lights

Postby lewfoer » Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:12 pm

Audi has had LED headlights for a few years. Can you get them to replace OE halogen bulbs tough.

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Re: LED lights

Postby dale miller » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:26 pm

I want to change all of my running lights,except headlight,to LED bulbs,84 GL1200 Interstate,does anyone have a list of bulbs sizes and quantity needed? Thanks




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