1986 GL1200 would not


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1986 GL1200 would not

Postby 2777emartin » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:42 pm



I buying a 1986 GL1200 this next Saturday, took to bike for a spin ran great, no smoke at start up while cold. After returning let the bike sit at idle for around 10 to 15 minutes. The bike died and could not restart it until about 15 tp 20 minutes later. The battery is about 5 years old could an old battery be to blame or could it be a more major problem? The guy I'm getting the bike from said it's been know to flood.



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Re: 1986 GL1200 would not

Postby detdrbuzzard » Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:30 pm

sometimes when the starter is going bad the heat from the engine will cause it to lock up ( the starter ) but once the motor and starter cool down the bike starts like it should
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Re: 1986 GL1200 would not

Postby 2777emartin » Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:54 pm

Another thing that it did when I first hit the start button it made a bit of a spining sound instead of starter turn over. The second time I hit the starter it started just fine. That was on the first cold start that I did. When it died after letting it idle for a while it did turn over just slow. I guess I need to know if the bike just sits running for a while at idle would it drain the bettery. Or does the stator still charge regardless.

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Re: 1986 GL1200 would not

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:30 am

2777emartin wrote:Another thing that it did when I first hit the start button it made a bit of a spining sound instead of starter turn over. The second time I hit the starter it started just fine. That was on the first cold start that I did. When it died after letting it idle for a while it did turn over just slow. I guess I need to know if the bike just sits running for a while at idle would it drain the bettery. Or does the stator still charge regardless.


That spinning is usually due to sludge in the engine clogging the starter sprag clutch, and can usually be fixed easily with a dose of Seafoam in the oil.

These bikes do NOT charge when sitting at idle - they draw down the battery. They don't start to charge the battery until close to 2,000 RPM. So if the battery was weak, and it was left idling for some time, it's possible it could draw the battery down quite low - but you would notice stuttering and sputtering before it died.

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Re: 1986 GL1200 would not

Postby 2777emartin » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:31 am

Cool thank you for all your your help, I'm new to Goldwing doc' and I'm sure I'll have more questions. I bought mt first Goldwing a GL1100 in july, and found this nice shape GL1200 and sold my 1100. Thanks again. I'll be back for more help I'm sure.

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Re: 1986 GL1200 would not

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:52 am

""The guy I'm getting the bike from said it's been know to flood.'''Is it known to flood when sitting?or running?MMO or Sea Foam will help the starter 'free spin problem' and sounds like it's time for a new battery.

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Re: 1986 GL1200 would not

Postby 2777emartin » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:23 am

The bike was serviced in October of last year, new timing belt, tune up, oil change, etc. they went threw the brakes. All of this was done at ahonda shop. That was about 600 miles ago. Would seafoam still be in order with that low of miles on a oil change?

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Re: 1986 GL1200 would not

Postby 2777emartin » Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:01 am

One more dumb question I have if someone has an answer. The gl1200I I'm buying is @ 2.5 hours away from where I live, so I'm going to trailer the bike. Do I need to drop the air suspension or just strap it down the best I can?

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Re: 1986 GL1200 would not

Postby 86GW1200 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:34 pm

I'm no expert. I just purchased my first Goldwing (first bike in 20 years) last July. I just strapped it down, two from the handlebars and two from the rear bars. I stopped every 15 minutes for the first hour and each time it needed a little tightening. After that I stopped after two hours. I came from Pa. to Tn. and then Tn. to Fl. No problems. After I got to Tn., I just checked it at gas time.

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Re: 1986 GL1200 would not

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:34 pm

An oil change by itself will not clean out sludge,debris,nasty stuff.If the starter still free wheels sometimes,then of course Sea Foam or MMO it.Please follow the instructions posted here when using either product.Also check the preferred oil brand and viscosity for your needs. I prefer Castrol 20-50 for the aluminum block(Deep south).Its an alkaloid based oil(keeps the insides clean),Penzoil is paraffin based and chemically reacts with hot aluminum leaving that nasty yellow film on everything.Just secure the bike and add a safety rope, A strap on one transport(Harbor freight junk)broke,the safety rope saved the day.

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Re: 1986 GL1200 would not

Postby starfleetengineer » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:15 pm

Harobr Freight "junk"? I buy alot of things from them, and as of yet no problems. I bought one of their cheaper winches 5 years ago and it still goes strong. I have maxed it out many times pulling trees up a creek bank. I have also bought tie downs and pull straps and have had no problems. In a pinch I have bought sockets and wrennches. Pound for pound warrenty for warrenty they stack up to Sears or even some of my tool dealers. If you've had straps brake, they might have been too small for the load or cranked down too hard. Or maybe they were defective. Who knows. I just know I have found alot of great deals their with no ill feelings ;)

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Re: 1986 GL1200 would not

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:10 pm

Sorry about the flippant remark.Harbor Freight stuff is ok.I guess I just over-stressed the actual load limit of the straps.So it was a poor judgment call on my part about the right tool for the right job.I should have used the 1500lb straps.My Bad.Virgil

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Re: 1986 GL1200 would not

Postby starfleetengineer » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:22 pm

virgilmobile wrote:Sorry about the flippant remark.Harbor Freight stuff is ok.I guess I just over-stressed the actual load limit of the straps.So it was a poor judgment call on my part about the right tool for the right job.I should have used the 1500lb straps.My Bad.Virgil


Who can say that we haven't done that before :lol: Myself... I like overkill :shock: If the bigger one can't hold it, give up... ;)

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