1985 gl1200 Head Gasket


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1985 gl1200 Head Gasket

Postby SAILOR » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:43 pm



I'm just going to do a head gasket, since I got the bike apart to do a timing belt change. Now I'm wondering what gaskets I need to buy for that and where I can get them. Do I need to replace the value cover gasket as well? Manual says I need to remove the timing belt pulley and the back of the timing belt cover. To me it appears like I can leave the rear timeing belt housing attached to the head and still remove the head. Would like to not have to remove those pulleys if I don't have to. Do I really need to remove them?



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Re: 1985 gl1200 Head Gasket

Postby SAILOR » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:44 pm

Oops sorry this is a really a 1984 gl1200.

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Re: 1985 gl1200 Head Gasket

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:13 pm

There is a gasket kit available that has all the gaskets you'll need. The valve cover gasket is kind of spongy and reusable (unless it's in really poor condition) as it's designed to have the valve covers removed regularly for maintenance.

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Re: 1985 gl1200 Head Gasket

Postby SAILOR » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:51 pm

A kit? You mean there is more than just the head gasket? Don't suppose you could point me to a link that identifies the correct kit. I do see some kits out there but they seem to have a whole set of gaskets. If I'm only pulling off the head what gaskets are required. I'm trying to do this on the cheap, so want to minimize the number of extra gaskets I have to buy. Also do you know if I can leave the timing pulley still attached to the head when I pull it off?

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

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Re: 1985 gl1200 Head Gasket

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:01 pm

If all you need is the head gaskets themselves, and doing it on the cheap :) then just buy the head gaskets themselves. However there are "top end" gasket kits that include the head gaskets, valve cover gaskets, and a ton of other gaskets.

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Re: 1985 gl1200 Head Gasket

Postby SAILOR » Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:22 pm

After reading a number of post I'm thinking there are a number of other gaskets and o-rings that should be replaced. Some I'm planning on bying the top end gasket kit now. I've been reading that I should only buy OEM. My problem is I can't find a single site online that sales a top end OEM gasket kit for a GL1200 1984. Any know of a site I can use. I live in Tacoma, WA.

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Re: 1985 gl1200 Head Gasket

Postby tricky » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:29 pm

Have you given a thought of using your local Honda Dealer? Thats where I get my genuine parts.

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Re: 1985 gl1200 Head Gasket

Postby alanc1100 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:56 am

Hi Sailor, I can tell you from just replacing my right cylinder head on my 86 Aspencade this past weekend a couple of things you need to know. There are eBay stores that sell everything from full engine gasket sets to top end kits, to single gaskets. Do a search for "Honda GL1200 Goldwing" in the motorcycle parts section of eBay motors and you will see tons of stuff come up. Your choice to buy OEM or not. I bought non-OEM, also going cheap. Had to buy too many other items for the bike and the wallet is pretty thin now. I guess we will see how long mine hold up...You can pull the head with the cam pulley still on, but I pulled mine. No puller needed. You can take a couple of flattip screwdrivers and GENTLY rock the pulley till it comes off. The pulley is not pressed on, it has a key/slot. Then remove the two bolts over and under the cam to remove the rear belt housing. I paid for single head gaskets (2), thinking I would do the left head gasket too. NOT! After the ordeal with the right head, I am saving that gasket for when and if it goes or anything else on that side for that matter. Also, I paid for a set of exhaust gaskets, also thinking of the previous. I did not think about the coolant tube fitting in the top of the head. Once off, I found that gasket was a metal type and was reusable. If you have any plans down the road to do any other work on your engine, I recommend buying the complete engine gasket kit. They run about $90 on eBay compared to about $70 for a top end kit. My head gaskets and exhaust gaskets cost me $60 plus shipping. Had I have known prior to purchasing, I would have just bought the complete kit. Anywhoo, my engine is back together and plan to fire her up this afternoon and continue searching for my radiator leak (top of radiator somewhere). By the way, I live in Renton. Renton Motorcycles and Henshaw's both have to order almost all gaskets. And, they are NOT cheap. Like $8.95 for just the coolant fitting gasket alone. Head gasket was $49 and the exhaust gaskets were $7 a piece. I think they will give you a deal if you are buying the kits, but the cost was too much for me. I looked at the OEM head gasket and saw virtually no difference between it and the non-OEM that I bought online for half the price. Anyway, good luck with yours.

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Re: 1985 gl1200 Head Gasket

Postby SAILOR » Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:22 am

Where did you see a top end gasket for $70? Everything I found was over $100?

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Re: 1985 gl1200 Head Gasket

Postby alanc1100 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:19 am

Sailor, this is what I was talking about:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GL1200-1 ... ccessories

Complete engine gasket kit 0- $87.00 + shipping

and

Top end kit (listed for GL1100 or 1000, but should also fit 1200) for $67.00 + shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Goldwing ... ccessories

This particular store is Sabre Cycle Honda Goldwing Store online.

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Re: 1985 gl1200 Head Gasket

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:12 am

Of course, you would be making the gigantic mistake of purchasing the cheap crappy garbage peddled by Saber Cycle. I would suggest finding a different vendor that will actually support their product.

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Re: 1985 gl1200 Head Gasket

Postby alanc1100 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:05 am

Sailor and WingAdmin, I was using the Saber Cycle site as an example of what is out there. I think I bought my exhaust gaskets from them. I bought the head gaskets from another source. I agree that if the source is not customer service oriented and the parts they sell are crap, they should be eliminated from your purchasing lists. Now I know. Just glad they were exhaust gaskets. Cheap and easy to get in OEM in case they blow. Being new to the forum, I am just now getting the picture of the sources that are trustworthy and helpful and those that are not. So, Sailor, if I gave you bad advice there, I apologize. Again, good luck with your project.

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Re: 1985 gl1200 Head Gasket

Postby SAILOR » Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:28 am

I had already be alert to that vendor product so I was staying away from there stuff. But thanks for the link. I did purchase a top end kit from another vendor and did pay considerably more. Hope they aren't crap. Once I get it and install and use, I'll let you know.




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