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clutch creep

Postby maestro319 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:40 pm



Ran into a problem today on a short ride. I couldn't keep the idle up at a stop sign. The bike even died once.
Then, when I tried to start it, it would "creep" forward even with the clutch pulled in all the way. I thought the problem was fuel or carb related
as the idle wouldn't stay up. But my Harley riding friend looked it over and said it was probably a worn clutch plate.
Sounds like BIG BUCKS. Gotta pull the engine, right? Your thoughts??



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Re: clutch creep

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:56 pm

The first thing I would do is bleed your hydraulic clutch line. If you haven't flushed it and put new fluid in it, now would be the time. If you have air in your clutch line, then it won't be able to fully disengage the clutch when you pull the lever in, and the symptoms will be exactly what you are describing.

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Re: clutch creep

Postby vtxcandyred » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:06 pm

Replacing the cluch pack is not too bad IF thats what it is. Do as suggested above first.

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Re: clutch creep

Postby sundog » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:39 am

I had a problem with slight creeping. The problem turn out to be my clutch handle had worn over time, where the master cylinder piston met the handle. I bought a new handle and the regained the lost travel and the creeping stopped. My wife would disagree she thinks I'm still a creep. It sounds like your fighting a bigger problem, but a little air and a band handle could cause the problem. My wife would disagree she thinks I still a creep. good luck.

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Re: clutch creep

Postby Oldsmores » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:34 pm

When you bleed the clutch, bleed it first at the bleeder valve on the clutch, then also bleed at the banjo bolt at the clutch handle.

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Re: clutch creep

Postby maestro319 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:09 pm

Thanks for your replys and info guys. I'll be working on it next week. Going out of town this weekend. I'll let you know how it turns out. If there are any other ideas out there I'd be glad to hear them.

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Re: clutch creep

Postby starfleetengineer » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:48 pm

maestro319 wrote:Ran into a problem today on a short ride. I couldn't keep the idle up at a stop sign. The bike even died once.
Then, when I tried to start it, it would "creep" forward even with the clutch pulled in all the way. I thought the problem was fuel or carb related
as the idle wouldn't stay up. But my Harley riding friend looked it over and said it was probably a worn clutch plate.
Sounds like BIG BUCKS. Gotta pull the engine, right? Your thoughts??

I take it thats why he rides a Harley? A worn clutch plate will now cause it to creep. It will make it harder for the bike to go! It's just like in a car or truck. A worn clutch will slip and your RPM's will go up and you won't move.The problem lies in you clutch, master cyl, hose or clutch slave cyl. As Wingman says, clean it out and rebleed it. If it's not making enough pressure to release the clutch, I would say the master might need rebulit.
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Re: clutch creep

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:15 am

starfleetengineer wrote:I take it thats why he rides a Harley? A worn clutch plate will now cause it to creep. It will make it harder for the bike to go! It's just like in a car or truck. A worn clutch will slip and your RPM's will go up and you won't move.The problem lies in you clutch, master cyl, hose or clutch slave cyl. As Wingman says, clean it out and rebleed it. If it's not making enough pressure to release the clutch, I would say the master might need rebulit.


I've actually heard of a worn clutch in a Goldwing causing clutch creep before - it was so worn so badly that pieces of the clutch had broken off and were wedging themselves between plates, causing the creep.

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Re: clutch creep

Postby starfleetengineer » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:29 pm

Wow... Thats a first! In all my years of being a mechanic I have never heard of that.
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Re: clutch creep

Postby vtxcandyred » Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:03 pm

starfleetengineer wrote:Wow... Thats a first! In all my years of being a mechanic I have never heard of that.

You and me both, and I've wrenching since the early sixties. I've seen them come apart but never being wedged in between the plates.

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Re: clutch creep

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:17 pm

starfleetengineer wrote:Wow... Thats a first! In all my years of being a mechanic I have never heard of that.


Read it on another Goldwing site - guy was having problems with the clutch not releasing completely, he finally gave up and pulled the clutch out, and little chunks of metal came out with it. I can only imagine where else in the engine that metal went, and what it did...




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