OIL BRANDS


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OIL BRANDS

Postby wingnut123 » Mon May 16, 2011 5:51 am



I'd like to know a good oil to use in my 1985 Goldwing GL1200. The previous owner was using castor oil which is fine with me. But want to know for sure what is considered the best for this bike.
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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby cbx4evr » Mon May 16, 2011 8:35 am

Synthetic or conventional??

I use Shell Rotella.

If cost is not an object use this:

http://www.mobiloil.com/usa-english/mot ... 0w-40.aspx
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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby wingnut123 » Mon May 16, 2011 1:06 pm

I'm not sure. Like I said it's a 85 1200 . I just want a oil that will get me around the U.S.
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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby artgrantz » Mon May 16, 2011 9:09 pm

I used Mobil One in my 1200 and now use it in my 1500. A friend has an 1800 with 375,000 miles on it using Mobil One with no problems.

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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby trike lady » Mon May 16, 2011 9:34 pm

I've been using Honda GN4 in my 1500 and have no problems.
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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby wingnut123 » Tue May 17, 2011 4:46 am

Thank you for all of your reply's. Helped me a lot.
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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby 86GW1200 » Tue May 17, 2011 8:27 pm

No expert here. GN4 in the gallon jug from the stealer. There may be a better oil, but I know this one is going to get the job done, with no risk of getting the wrong product and doing damage to my Aspy.

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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby steelfoot427 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:52 pm

i have just over 95,000 miles and just changed the brand of oil from mobil1 motorcycle to delo 15w40 and what it did is .....just great things the engine got quiet rpms came down i just turned it back up a little runs cooler and mileage went up about 2-3 miles and the clutch is tighter no slipping now so i think that the older bikes like low tech oil i should have been using it from the time it got to 40,000 hope it and i will see 200,000 thats my 2 cents

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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby seabee_ » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:42 pm

ooohhhh! The 'oil' question. Haven't seen that one in awhile. :lol: But, yes, DELO is good stuff. Been using it for quite awhile. It does everything mentioned above. I have over 113k miles on the ticker and she's still running good.
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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby RATWING-86 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:15 am

cbx4evr wrote:Synthetic or conventional??

I use Shell Rotella.

If cost is not an object use this:

http://www.mobiloil.com/usa-english/mot ... 0w-40.aspx


I use Shell Rotella 5W-40 T-6 in all my motorcycles.....................awesome stuff!
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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby SilverDave » Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:53 pm

The 1200's have an " Iffy " stator, which doesn't do well in corrosive oil ...
After Hard soldering the three yellow wires, its recommended you change oil often ... Very often !!!
so
I gave up using pricy oil, and look for something like this at Walmart , or Canadian Tire , ON SALE

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/4 ... ?locale=en

and I change my oil at 4000 to 6000...

Pretty cheap in the bigger scheme of things, considering the cost and labour of a new stator ..


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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby golden highway » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:57 pm

I didn't know the stator was in the oil. I thought they were dry.

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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby seabee_ » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:10 pm

golden highway wrote:I didn't know the stator was in the oil. I thought they were dry.


Yes, both the stator and the clutch plates are an 'oil bath' type. That is why you have to make sure there are no "friction modifiers" in the oil. Synthetic and 'diesel' oils like Rotella or Delo are good to use. Diesel oils don't have friction modifiers like most oils made for cages, or cars... :lol:
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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby shawnee1952 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:16 am

When it comes to the conventional dino oil there are only two types. The sweet crude from the norhteast known as Pennsylvania sweet is a parrafin based oil where as the oil from the other oil fields (Texas) is an asphalt based oil. The sweet crude makes a better lube oil and the asphalt makes better gasoline/diesel fuel. everyone has a personnel preferance as to a brand name and it is usually the one their granddad and dad always used. but all arguments aside make sure the oil you choose meets or exceeds the manufacturers requirements and change it regularly. I have worked in a Shell lube oil blending and packing plant for 15 years and have picked the brains of our lab personnel about what to run in my wings and Rottela t6 synthetic is an excellent choice. I always use a good brand name filter(WIX) and change my oil at less than 3k. It is good insurance for a long and happy engine life.

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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby RATWING-86 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:05 am

shawnee1952 wrote:When it comes to the conventional dino oil there are only two types. The sweet crude from the norhteast known as Pennsylvania sweet is a parrafin based oil where as the oil from the other oil fields (Texas) is an asphalt based oil. The sweet crude makes a better lube oil and the asphalt makes better gasoline/diesel fuel. everyone has a personnel preferance as to a brand name and it is usually the one their granddad and dad always used. but all arguments aside make sure the oil you choose meets or exceeds the manufacturers requirements and change it regularly. I have worked in a Shell lube oil blending and packing plant for 15 years and have picked the brains of our lab personnel about what to run in my wings and Rottela t6 synthetic is an excellent choice. I always use a good brand name filter(WIX) and change my oil at less than 3k. It is good insurance for a long and happy engine life.


It is also an impressive choice in FORD Powerstroke Diesel Engines, my HEUI 6.0 loves the stuff!!! In fact, the only stuff I don't use it in is my cars. All my diesel equipment loves it as well.
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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby Rosok » Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:14 pm

Hey guys, what do you know about the shear strength of the rotella? Motorcycle oils have special shear stabilizers added (my understanding) since the oil needs to act like a gear oil as well due to the transmission being integral with the engine. Automotive engines don't need this, at least not to the same degree.
And I never realized diesel oils don't have the friction modifiers added like auto oils do. Is that just the rotella or all desiel oils?
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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby RATWING-86 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:27 am

There are posters in the Ford Powerstroke community who have done oil analysis on the Rotella T-6 and it has been proven to maintain viscosity in the 6.0 diesel for 7.5K miles. What makes this significant is the 6.0 is a HEUI engine or (Hydraulic Electronic Unit Injector). There is a pump on the engine that pressurizes engine oil up to 3500 psi and sends it to the injectors and hydraulically forces fuel into the cylinder when electronically triggered. This is TORTURE for motor oil. Our Gold Wings place no where near the stress on motor oil as that application. Add in the fact that this excellent oil is available at retailers for $5. a quart (less on sale) make it a lubrication bargain. I started using it in bikes when I learned of oil analysis results of members on the RC 51 forum, their bikes showed less wear than bikes using factory Honda oil.
Shell Rotella T-6 synthetic is good stuff.
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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby silverado6x6 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:07 am

Being a lifer diesel mechanic I too will chime in about Rotella T6 synthetic for bikes, and I have 12 of them, during the summer months I might add a percentage say a quart of Amsoil 20-50 MC type oil into the mix. However I own only three air cooled bikes but I am in Alaska, if I had a Hardley I would use synthetic 20-50 Amsoil. Tests do show Amsoil superior but for the money Rotella is the arguable best deal, Walmart is constantly running out of it.
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Re: OIL BRANDS

Postby Rosok » Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:05 pm

Excellent info guys, thanks. I'm going to try the stuff! Of course you never know with motor oil until it's too late, so the testing data , riders input and engine shop info is invaluable


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