Somewhat interesting problem


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rjbeck
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Somewhat interesting problem

Postby rjbeck » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:13 pm



I have an 85 LTD that I am having an issue with. I have replaced the battery with a new one and have pulled it out charged it completely, had a load test done on it and still having the same problem.

Here is the issue: When running with completely charged battery runs fine until the motor gets "warm"/"hot" and the radiator fan kicks on. When that happens the fan doesn't turn off and it drains my battery until the bike dies. Then it's pull the battery, charge it and put back in. Doesn't matter if sitting on center stand or on the road. As long as that fan doesn't kick in, then everything charges fine and don't have any issues.

It has been suggested that it may be the thermostat. Wanted to get some opinions of what was thought here.

Thanks,
Roger



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Re: Somewhat interesting problem

Postby virgilmobile » Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:41 pm

Her's a somewhat interesting test method.
1. Pull the lowers on the right side and locate the thermostatic switch,not the thermostat,see the pix.
2. Do not disturb the wire in case it's a chaffed wire.
3.Figure out a way to pull the plug off(don't do it)
4.Start the bike and run till the fan kicks on.
5.Leave the fan run,WIGGLE the wires first to see if it's a pinched wire.
6. If it is still running, pull the plug off the switch,the fan should stop.(try not to get burnt).
Power goes to the fan motor,leaves the motor and goes to the switch and grounds on the green wire
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Re: Somewhat interesting problem

Postby rjbeck » Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:16 pm

Thank you for the advice.

Well, I was incorrect, it is not the fan motor that keeps draining the battery. I have determined that I am going to have to look at replacing the regulator/rectifier or the stator. If it turns out to be the stator, I will probably have to take it to a shop to have it looked at. If the regulator/rectifier, I think I can handle that part of it.

Again thanks for the help and advice from this website.

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Re: Somewhat interesting problem

Postby Daveelochow » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:59 am

Have the 3 yellow (and connector) wires been replaced (stator to regulator)? This is common on all GL1200's. I replaced the wires and regulator and have had no issues since.

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Re: Somewhat interesting problem

Postby rjbeck » Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:47 am

Yes the wires have been connected. Have to get some money together to get the reg/rectifier. As soon as I have that hopefully will solve the problem. So now
It's a waiting game.

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Re: Somewhat interesting problem

Postby SilverDave » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:14 pm

JC whitney has both Stators and reg/rectifiers that are a perfect fit, and better than the Honda Original :

http://www.jcwhitney.com/ricks-motorspo ... 027y1985j3

Be sure to do the 3 part test on your stator before assuming its the rect/reg !!!

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Re: Somewhat interesting problem

Postby rjbeck » Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:41 pm

Just figured that it would be cheaper to replace the Regulator rectifier than to spend the 1800 on the stator.

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Re: Somewhat interesting problem

Postby landisr » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:59 am

You need to isolate the problem before throwing new parts at it. There is a test for the stator. If it is bad, you might consider the Poorboy conversion kit. If you do the work yourself (and it's pretty straightforward), you can do it for around $300 or so, have twice the electrical capacity you have now, and can replace the automotive alternator almost as cheaply and easily as on your car.

Ron in MI

PS. I'm assuming you can install this kit on an LTD or Sei. If not, I'm sure someone will advise us otherwise here....
Beam me up, Scotty. There's no intelligent life down here.

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Re: Somewhat interesting problem

Postby SilverDave » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:48 am

And, if you like wrenching, during the winter months, and have a relatively un-cluttered shop, you can take out the old stator yourself, and re and re it for much LESS than mother honda charges.
I have a friend who used to buy " Dead" GL1200's, for real cheap, trailer them back to his garage, re and re the stator with a new ( and better ) stator, and sell them for about a $2500 profit.
The parts are about $300 to $400, and the labor ... well eventually he got it down to about 6 hours of leisurely work. For the first timer, I would guess about 10 to 12 hours ..

Here is a place for electrolux stators :
http://www.jcwhitney.com/ricks-motorspo ... 027y1985j1


Apparently you don't have to remove the entire engine, for which you will need a hoist system and possibly 3 friends ( its 250 pounds !)
if you get it loosened up... carbs, etc, and most wires off, then the stator can be replaced by merely twisting the engine slightly sideways a bit, just enough to get clearance for removing the stator.

Or... You can install a POOR boy external stator ... for about the same hassle

SilverDave




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