Oil in coolant/Coolant burning


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Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby rcgreg » Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:03 am



Just a question here, I detected a small amopunt of OIl in my coolant - which could have come from the funnel I used to top up the reservoir, more worriesome is a small cloud of smoke and burnt coolant smell on startup. No weeping from the water pump though. Question is - water pump seals or head gaskets?



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Re: Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:06 am

Water pump seals that leak should show at the weep hole assuming it's clear.Coolant in the exhaust usually indicates a head gasket.This can be done without pulling the motor from the bike.

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Re: Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby cbx4evr » Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:59 pm

What colour was the smoke. Coolant burns white.
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Re: Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby rcgreg » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:26 pm

yep - It was white - and had that unmistakable sweet smell of money leaving my wallet in copious amounts :lol:

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Re: Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby cbx4evr » Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:51 pm

Ya copious amounts of money will fix just about everything.
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Re: Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby rcgreg » Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:37 am

Hey! - That's what my wife told me on her way out to do some shopping - and she doesn't even ride :lol:

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Re: Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby trukr » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:20 pm

I did the had gaskets and replaced the starter on my gl1200 for just around $200. That also included haveing the heads checked out at a machine shop. It really isn't a bad job, as long as you have some knowledge of engines. Took me a total of about 8 hours. Of course I had to wait on parts b4 I could put it back together.

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Re: Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby Pam » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:35 pm

Yep my money is on head gasket, You should be able to get her fixed up without to much issue. Get the torque speck for the head and a new gasket and your off to the races so to speak

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Re: Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby rcgreg » Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:18 am

Thanks!
Are the head gaskets part of a gasket kit - including the ones needed after you remove the front cover - which I'm assuming needs to be done to get the heads off.

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Re: Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby Pam » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:49 pm

Not sure about bikes but for cars you can get just the gaskets. Someone will be able to answer the question

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Re: Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby ceasefire49 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:25 am

If you are going to pull that head you may as well do the valve seals also. :D

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Re: Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby rcgreg » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:23 pm

Valve Seals? I heard about valve seats - but what are these mysterious things called valve seals? An O ring?
I may as well do the timing belts too then :)

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ANd this was going to be a simple job :lol:

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Re: Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:17 pm

Valve guide seals.They attach at the top of the guide and seal to the valve stem.They do get hard with age and can allow some excess oil to migrate down the valve stem and get burnt in the cylinder.Usually most noticeable during deceleration due to high vacuum at the back side of the intake valve.
Whatever you do..do not grind the valves or seats.They can be lightly lapped.Do pull each valve,I did find on one repair that the inner spring broken in half on 2 valves,I didn't see it before disassemble.

It doesn't take that long to do,even a repair shop doing it isn't to bad.

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Re: Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby rcgreg » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:06 am

Thanks for the advice - ordered the parts this morning - Let the Wrenching Begin !!!

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Re: Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby ceasefire49 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:09 am

Yea valve guide seals Just a habit I got into using when working on cars as a kid but yes the correct terminology is Valve Guide seals. Easy to do. :D

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Re: Oil in coolant/Coolant burning

Postby rcgreg » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:45 am

Ahhh - those are the little rubbery things in the top end gasket kit I got !




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