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85 1200A

Postby CTInspect » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:04 am



1st, followup to valve problem: Was a BENT ex valve, that was the easy part to fix. Found "newer" belts and suspect that the "gentleman" I bought from knew about it, actually stumbled accross his mechanic and confirmed it. While I was in my garage working anyway, did brakes, tires, springs and shocks, seats, seals, broken bolts, so-so parts etc, etc, end to end. Actually was a very enlightening and educational experience.
Started right up, OK the seafoam that was in there for a month filled my garage with smoke, but better out in smoke than sitting in the carbs.
Now the two final (hopefully for now) issues:

1 I still have very erratic vac readings on the carbs and could use alittle info on possible places to look, hear no vac leaks but they could be there. Any ideas on where to start would be appreciated. I do have new exhaust gaskets coming due to very minor leaks.

2 The rear wheel and everything with it went back on fine except the is a noticable gap between the wheel hub and the dust cover, 1/4" or so. Leeds me to think it isnt seating all the way but it went on fine, no left over parts, all tightened down fine. I thought at first maybe as its torqued down it would seat but I dont want to force it.
The spline is almost 2 " and for it to go on so well and leave 1/4" has me a bit puzzled ??

The docs and info on this site were a great help thru this, the last bike I tore into was, well a few years ago I would say, late 70's CB750, an old 160, a 305Dream, oh yes as a youth a Honda stepthru, I think they were "cubs"? Outside of that I always let someone else do the work, but this is actually fun.

Thanks for any help you can be
Glenn



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Re: 85 1200A

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:07 pm

CTInspect wrote:2 The rear wheel and everything with it went back on fine except the is a noticable gap between the wheel hub and the dust cover, 1/4" or so. Leeds me to think it isnt seating all the way but it went on fine, no left over parts, all tightened down fine. I thought at first maybe as its torqued down it would seat but I dont want to force it.
The spline is almost 2 " and for it to go on so well and leave 1/4" has me a bit puzzled ??


Is it possible that the spline drive is not fully seated into the wheel hub?

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Re: 85 1200A

Postby CTInspect » Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:19 pm

"Is it possible"
The only thing impossible is me winning the PowerBall
I thought the same yesterday and slid the wheel back off, repulled the drive, checked for obstructions and so on. It felt like it is all the way in when I reset it, tapped with a R mallet and sounds seated. I do recall feeling a gap between the base of the pins and the dampers but still felt it was all the way in.
It is back on my list because Im not going out on it until its resolved.

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Re: 85 1200A- rear wheel problem

Postby CTInspect » Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:24 am

I took it all back off, cleaned, checked, regreased both wheel side and drive side. Fitted the drive to the wheel, it seats all the way. Fitted to the drive side and it seats all the way, over the o-ring and sits fine. Crude measurement says it will be fine ..... NOT and I must be missing something thats right in front of me.
I didnt notice any "key" on either side but the spline will only go on the drive one way, as if there were a key. ??
Any other ideas?
Thanks
after the exh gaskets go on and I check some more for vac leaks, are there any other spots to look to solve the errattic vac issue?

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Re: 85 1200A

Postby tricky » Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:31 am

Providing all the spacers have been installed on the axle I dont think you could get any space there.

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Re: 85 1200A

Postby CTInspect » Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:04 pm

If I had parts left over I'd be happy, everything is where it should be
spacer/caliper/spacer/wheel/drive spline/drive, snug and tight. wheel is centered, no run out. Maybe the Dust Cover shrunk ?
The pics I have are H Res and wont upload but its all there.
(Also have some good shots of doing the bent valve and everything else if anyone is interested.)

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Re: 85 1200A

Postby tricky » Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:08 pm

Use irfanview (free program) http://www.irfanview.ca/ to resize the resolution of your pics to 640x480 then you can upload them and we can see what your concern is.

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Re: 85 1200A

Postby CTInspect » Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:44 pm

Spacers/Caliper, etc


Shiney edge of hub, that should be in the dust cover


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Re: 85 1200A

Postby tricky » Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:52 pm

It's hard for me to see mine with the side box on, I shall see tomorrow, I have to remove the box to replace a brake line.
But it cant be out of place if all the parts are on.

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Re: 85 1200A

Postby CTInspect » Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:42 pm

Thanks for looking but hopefully yours doesnt have the gap. The hub has to sit inside the dust cover or dirt/rain etc will get in. I may just end up pulling the rear/shaft and going thru it on the bench.

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Re: 85 1200A

Postby tricky » Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:48 pm

If the wheel was moved over to the right any further than it is there would be all kinds of slop, I am presuming the inner collar is in place, I couldnt see it from the pics, that would be the only other thing that would prevent the wheel from being pushed to the right.

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Re: 85 1200A

Postby tricky » Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:57 pm

Tken from under the wheel I dont know if you can see anything that might help
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Re: 85 1200A

Postby CTInspect » Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:02 pm

Well this wheel has been off more that my shoes. Nothing is out of place, everything seats. No runout, noise or anything. Of course the test is after the exh is on and I run it.

It just seems to me from a mechanical standpoint (and engineering) that a "dust cover" should cover. Theres alot of &%*# that kicks up under there and if you dont put the cover on the garbage can all the way .....................

You know, all I wanted to do that 1st day was sync the carbs !

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Re: 85 1200A

Postby tricky » Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:43 pm

There is an O ring that keeps dirt out of the splines, I have never noticed any untoward dirt accumulating in the area. I have my wheel off probably every second winter, either to replace a tire or just to ensure there is lots of grease on the spider pins and splines.




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