electrical shut down


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garfield76510
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electrical shut down

Postby garfield76510 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:51 am



I have a 1987 Aspencade with a moto trike conversion reasently on my way to work I had an electrical shutdown when i came to a stop at a traffic light. My bike went totally dark and console went blank. To say the least I was not only supprised but a little scared it was 5:30Am and still dark. About 2 minutes later my console came back on and I was able to restart the bike. This happened 3 more times since then. I am afraid to take it in traffic at this point :(



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Re: electrical shut down

Postby bcassel » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:34 am

Check to see if maim fuse has been replaced with a circuit breaker. That would be about the right cooling/reset time for a 35 to 50 amp breaker to cool down.
Then you just need to find the short causing that much draw

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Re: electrical shut down

Postby thrasherg » Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:46 am

If he is riding at 5:30am he will have lights and everything turned on, that will definitely be enough to cause heating effects on either the main fuse or battery connections. As stated, take a good look at the main fuse and if it's original replace it with a modern fuse (it will have a metal strip that is screwed down on each end if its original). Also check the battery connections are clean and tight. If that all looks good, let us know and we can give other suggestions..

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Re: electrical shut down

Postby garfield76510 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:36 pm

I did take all the covers and seat off yesterday an started to look for anything shorting out. My first thought was a fuseable link type issue. I did find the in line fuse off the battery and I guess right after that is the start relay? the fuse on this was warped a little but not blown. both of these fuses were also tight too

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Re: electrical shut down

Postby dingdong » Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:05 pm

The fusible links are notorious for deteriorating but the still "look" intact. They develop cracks that open when hot. I would replace it just to be sure.
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Re: electrical shut down

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:39 am

This sounds exactly like the main (dogbone) fuse failing - it's exactly the way it failed on my 1100. I strongly suspect that replacing it with a modern blade fuse will solve your problem.

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Re: electrical shut down

Postby garfield76510 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:15 am

I looked over the fuse holder and fuse but I will replace it anyway , that will be the cheapest thing I have done on this bike :lol:

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Re: electrical shut down

Postby SilverDave » Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:54 am

The dogbone fuse is hanging out in the air, can oxidize, and partially crack, and cause your symptoms --- a shutdown, until the fuse cools enough to "re-join" ( Been there, done that )

Its one of Honda's worst inventions !!!

You can get a larger wire gauge waterproof blade fuse holder at most marine shops :

http://www1.cooperbussmann.com/images/8 ... 380230.jpg
I put a red 40 amp in mine . Blade fuses are available most places if you travel a lot ... ( and if its an Interstate ... LOL... you should travel a lot !!! )
and a blade is easier to remove and check, on an annual basis.

The only negative of a large current blade fuse is that after several years, you may get a form of polarized electro-deposition on one blade ... a black corrosion on just ONE leg..which will after many years, cause high resistance in that fuse... and possible shutdown.

Its easy to check, and to replace, and still MUCH better than the %@&%^* dogbone fuse.... which left me high and dry several times before I removed it, and replaced it with a blade fuse holder.

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Re: electrical shut down

Postby garfield76510 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:59 am

Thanks
I pulled off the gas tank cover and the seat and went through all the conections and redid a lot of them where the preiviousd owner mad poor connections and I used srink tubing insted of tape. I removed a old modulator unit (I did not know was there) which might have been my short. I could not get over 11 volts out of charging system before that and i changed rhe dog bone fuse with the spair one i had. I now am getting 13 to 15 volts on charging. I hope to take it out in the next day or so when ZI have a day off on a drive. it shows up after about 25 miles or so. Thanks everyone for your help, Keep ideas comming this is a great web site for a rookie like me.

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Re: electrical shut down

Postby SilverDave » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:02 am

Oh Great ...13 to 15 volts !!... Your stator is probably A-OK
( That could have been very pricy !!)

Nows the time to : ( If it hasn't been partially done allready )
a) Clean up the ground strap and frame attachment point
b) Do the three part test on the stator .
c) replace the wiring harness with a Electrical connections harness which is
d) hard soldered everywhere ( specially the three yellow wire connector )
and of course...
e) replace the dogbone fuse with an in line blade fuse holder and 40 amp fuse ..

Good luck, and happy riding !!

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