fork springs 88 gl1500


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fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby virgilmobile » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:26 pm



Well,I just blew it.I was replacing the fork oil in the 1500.Just like I did on the 1200 and 1100.
I drained the oil out,which was perfect by the way,and proceeded to pump the new oil back in the drain plug.
It was easy on the other bikes,but the 1500 doesn't have a air line to open.So I fashioned a slip piece of plastic the let the air out past the fork seal.
It worked well until I got to the last 2 ounces and it started to come out of the seal.Oh just Pu.
So I figured the last thing I could do was to pop the caps and pour it straight in.
I just knew I was in trouble......When the caps came off it released so much spring that I don't have enough ass(187 lbs) to compress them back in.
I did this on the other bikes but with all my weight,I can't even get the cap within a inch of the tube.

What are my options????Oh God I hope my wife doesn't find out.
I'm just a bit annoyed.Especially knowing now that it didn't need to be done at all.It was just preventive maintenance.



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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby virgilmobile » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:47 pm

Well,she found out.....I just had to do something....I did make a "T" handle for it.
It took a half hour but I got them compressed back in.It was just difficult to get the cap thread started with that much pressure on them.I'll tell you,I'll NEVER do that again.My wrists are killing me.
Here's the pix...note the footprint on the handlebar plastic.Not to mention the seat.I literally had to stand on top of the bike to compress the springs.YUCK.

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby geomac1 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:25 pm

awesome looking tool! Those springs can be difficult without help. Short of coming up with a press!

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:32 pm

I think I may spring for the genuine Honda tool (part number is 07KMF-MT20300 ) - just because I'm pretty sure I'll use it more than a few times, and it also looks like it can be used on more bikes than just a Goldwing (or at least could be adapted for such). But not this year - spent too much already, and they want $150 for this thing.

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby geomac1 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:37 pm

Thanks! I didn't even know they made a tool like that! I will look to get one the next time mine is due a change!

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby virgilmobile » Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:32 pm

I literally had to stand on the top of the bike with my full weight balanced on that "T" handle.and the turn it.
I about came off it once.My wife caught me just in time.

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby geomac1 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:57 pm

Yes, my wife has saved me a time or two from myself!

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby Ericson38 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:52 pm

Glad you got it back together.

I'm another one that can't leave well enough alone. But with this post, you saved me from the same fate, cause that would have been on my immediate to do list.

Pretty soon, I'll be riding a 1500 too.

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:39 pm

I'm just about done,but I still have to grease the driveshaft and change the oil in the rear end.hopefully it won't be so eventful.

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:36 pm

virgilmobile wrote:I'm just about done,but I still have to grease the driveshaft and change the oil in the rear end.hopefully it won't be so eventful.


Order your driveshaft oil seal in advance...Mine was not in good shape when I pulled the driveshaft, now I'm waiting on a new one before I can put it back together. The service manual says to change it anytime the shaft is pulled, I should have obeyed that instruction and ordered one ahead of time.

Oh, and open the fill port on the final drive before opening the drain port. Other than that it's easy.

After the old gear oil drained, I flushed it a bit with some brake cleaner to get rid of the remnants of the old, dirty gear oil, then flushed it a bit with new gear oil to get rid of the remnants of any brake cleaner. Then closed the drain port and filled it up.

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:09 pm

Advise taken.Thanks.It would have been another one of thoes "waiting for parts" excuses again.
I've never lived in a worse "one stop,no stock" area in my life. :(
Is seems like everything I need is either obsolete or has to come from Japan via some slooooow boat.
I wonder if the seal has mm marks on it that can be compared to a Napa part?
Hey,what's up...I pulled the parts list for the 88-91 and it shows the oil seal for only a 90-91.???
Does that mean my 88 doesnt use one???

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby cbx4evr » Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:10 pm

WingAdmin wrote:I think I may spring for the genuine Honda tool (part number is 07KMF-MT20300 ) - just because I'm pretty sure I'll use it more than a few times, and it also looks like it can be used on more bikes than just a Goldwing (or at least could be adapted for such). But not this year - spent too much already, and they want $150 for this thing.



I built my own fork spring compressor tool for around $5. You have to remove the forks from the bike to use it though but it's much safer and works like a charm. The stock springs you can probably compress with not too much effort with the forks on the bike. Different story if you have Progressive springs. You run the risk of cross threading the fork cap or fork. Not a good thing.

I've attached a picture and a plan I had.


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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby wingdings » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:27 pm

Try this - I have a 89k - wing - had the same problem - made this - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=36765

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby spiralout » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:01 pm

wingdings wrote:Try this - I have a 89k - wing - had the same problem - made this - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=36765

Do you realize you bumped a 5 year old thread to promote your post?

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby MikeB » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:37 pm

spiralout wrote:
wingdings wrote:Try this - I have a 89k - wing - had the same problem - made this - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=36765

Do you realize you bumped a 5 year old thread to promote your post?

I do not think bumping a 5 year old post makes the information any less valuable? It is just attached to an old posting. He could have started a new post but the info is still good.

It is interesting to read through old posts though. Had I seen this post from virgilmobile back in Feb of 2012, I would have told him to use a speed handle with the correct size socket or hex wrench attached. I've removed several fork caps that way. You can put a lot of weight behind a speed handle and maintain excellent control.

However now, I do have the Honda fork too for the GL1500 and it works flawlessly.

The nice think is, you don't need a special tool for the GL1800. There isn't much spring pressure on those caps at rest.
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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby spiralout » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:57 pm

MikeB wrote:
spiralout wrote:
wingdings wrote:Try this - I have a 89k - wing - had the same problem - made this - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=36765

Do you realize you bumped a 5 year old thread to promote your post?

I do not think bumping a 5 year old post makes the information any less valuable? It is just attached to an old posting. He could have started a new post but the info is still good.

Agreed on it not making the info less valuable but the bumping of a 5 year old thread to the top just to promote a thread you created an hour before the bump, which is already at the top....
That kind of thing would get you a warning or even a temp suspension on lots of forums. That's just horrible forum etiquette.

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby MikeB » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:36 am

I'm so sorry. I was not aware that you were a goldwingdocs board moderator.
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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby wingdings » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:48 am

i did not want to promote anything ! there - all I did was use a thread that was posted in the box below where it said similar threads ??? .. in no way was it a attempt to promote anything !!! - they only thing I was trying to do was help fellow wingers keep there costs down on expensive tools and make there own !! - sometimes I just don't know why I even bother !! to spend my time taking photos etc - when all I get for my time and trouble is people giving it large over the post - I am trying to fix a bike before I die I have less than a year to do this - I want to take my son to Scotland on it and there is still lots to do too - I really don't want all this - I was only trying to help others that's all ..

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby GlimWas » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:06 am

I've done what Virgil has done and had no real problems to put the fork caps back on. I have progressive springs from Wilbers (Germany) in my forks.
No special tools necessary for me fortunately :)
I am a bit heavier than 187 lbs though..................
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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby 2wheelscram » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:08 am

Wingdings & cbx4evr -

Nice work on both of your DIY tools!


I disagree with the opinion about the
horrible forum etiquette.
Nothing wrong with continuing an older post with new relevant information. I'd rather find a single file with 30 entries of relevant info than have to hunt for 30 files of single entries.

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby wingdings » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:49 am

I was only trying to help people in the true spirt of the site - I had finished the write up on the tool I had made - and looked down the box below and saw that someone had a problem - so I just tried to help - trouble is I have now found on here to many people don't think before they put pen too paper I am trying to do the wing up for a ride to Scotland with my son I don't have a big bag of cash either I am trying to do this before I am unable too and only have a year too do it anyway .. but many thanks for your most positive and welcome comments ...

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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby MikeB » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:27 pm

wingdings wrote:I was only trying to help people in the true spirt of the site - ...

Not to worry wingdings. Your posts are always informative and appreciated.
Contributors like you are what makes this site what it is, helpful to all that read it.
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Re: fork springs 88 gl1500

Postby wingdings » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:03 pm

Hi - Mike - many thanks there for your comment and kind words there too - I really appreciate it too and I know to that you also go out of your way too - To help others as I try to do indeed - you did help me a lot with the petcock rebuild I did and later on the how to rebuild your petcock I quoted your symptoms of a bad petcock paragraph and thanked you for that in the write up - later wing admin added it to the how to articles that we all us from time to time - to save money on the garage bills - I know I do mike I don't have a shed load of money so having to do all the work myself so always looking for savings too if I find a easy or better way I always try to pass it on too other wing owners - nobody know everything Mike - however if we all share what we do know ,it makes it easy all round and saves tons of money too - Again mike thank you fella ...




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