no rear brakes 1994 1500 se


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no rear brakes 1994 1500 se

Postby rocnride1 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:14 pm



Peddal doesnt brake at all , no evidence of air, no leaks fluid reservior full of fluid ??? any ideas ??????



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Re: no rear brakes 1994 1500 se

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:11 pm

Is the pedal firm,or really easy to push down.?

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Re: no rear brakes 1994 1500 se

Postby rocnride1 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:46 pm

easy , like its not hooked up almost .

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Re: no rear brakes 1994 1500 se

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:31 am

When I got my 88,the front calipers were seized and the pedal was very loose and no rear brakes as well.
I pulled off the saddlebag on the left(2 hours)to get to the rear caliper.
I removed the caliper and cleaned it up(2 hours),including under the seals where it oxidizes(really needed).
I also removed both front calipers and serviced them because the left one is hooked to the rear.
I primed up the reservoir(which was dry) and proceeded to bleed new fluid through the entire system.(1 hour)
So far it holds good.It was just set up a long time and oxidation from moisture got to the aluminum.
If your brakes haven't been disassembled in a few years,nows the time.
Pull all the calipers off and scrape and polish them clean.Refill and bleed then out.
A seizing caliper at 60 mph is no fun either.

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Re: no rear brakes 1994 1500 se

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:37 am

Oh,one last note.You mentioned that the reservoir was full.You may have another problem as well.
Either the master cylinder is contaminated and not letting fluid into it or the pedal may be stuck up not allowing the piston in the master cylinder to fully retract.It would be prudent on your part to remove it and clean it as well.
You know,going fast is fun,but braking can be important too :)
This is one area you really want it to work right.

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Re: no rear brakes 1994 1500 se

Postby rocnride1 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:13 am

Thanks virglemobile ,

I appreciate the info. I'll try that this weekend . I rode the bike this morning and pumped the brake just to see and it did try to break somewhat but was like the brakespads werent coming out to meet rotor but that is just the way it felt to me .
I found this site a few days ago while looking for info on the 1500 in general , I had 1100 and 1200 's before but never a 1500 . My bike has a trike kit on it ( wife wouldnt ride with me on my 2 wheeler .) , but it takes some getting used to when riding , especially when
turning and on bumpy roads .
Again appreciate the info , seems this site is a good find as far as info goes !

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Re: no rear brakes 1994 1500 se

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:28 am

Now knowing it is triked,I wonder if the brake system has been altered to fit the trike kit.?
Does the trike kit replace the rear wheel or add on free turning wheels leaving the brake system original?

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Re: no rear brakes 1994 1500 se

Postby rocnride1 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:10 pm

rear tires freewheel , no breaking from rear wheel
I actually heard the back caliper/pads rubbing rear wheel today , either pads are wore out
or way out of adjustment ?????

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Re: no rear brakes 1994 1500 se

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:54 pm

No adjustment on the pads or caliper.They are self aligning.

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Re: no rear brakes 1994 1500 se

Postby PalmerAK » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:23 pm

I bought a '94 1500 SE last year with the same problem. The seller knew it was more than a simple fix so he adjusted the price accordingly. I'm somewhat mechanically inclined, but after talking to several people in the know and doing some research online, I decided not to tackle the job. I took it in to my local ripoff specialist, aka the local Honda dealer, and presto, 3 weeks and $714.00 later it came out with the rear brake working and a new rear master cylinder. I've been told that it has to do with how close the rear brake cylinder is to the exhaust, and that the solution is to simply work the brake pedal 10 or so times a week over the winter when the bike isn't being used.

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Re: no rear brakes 1994 1500 se

Postby rocnride1 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:29 am

Thanks for all who replied back on this subject . I started with the first step in the process of checking brakes ,,, bleeding them and amazingly I had brakes , sometimes you just get lucky ! Again thanks for the info been cruising ever since . I do think the 3 wheeler kit will have to go , just like the 2 wheel setup better .




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