Buying a 1989 GL1500


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Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby zamboni920 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:47 pm



I have been offered a 1989 GL1500 for under $3000. It is a daily driver. Weathered finish, cracks in Corbin seat, needs front fork seals and a general tune-up, the LCD radio display is unreadable. Does this sound like a good deal? It has 84K.



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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby virgilmobile » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:14 pm

I paid $2500 for my 88.It looked nice,but it needed the brakes repaired,carbs gone through(2 days work), timing belts($45) and a general going over.Honda estimated $2000 in repairs.I did it myself for $200 in parts.
In Louisiana,a decent 1500 is around $6000 with 100k+ miles.
You can figure on some preventive work needed.Belts,carb sync(don't take them out unless needed)
a replacement lcd.(good luck with that) maybe eBay.
At least flushing all the brake fluid And checking for fluid leaks.
Replacing the seals isn't a hard job and can be done for less then $50 by you.
So for the money and the overall condition you describe it sounds like it's priced about right.
It's "can you live with it" or do you have to have Mother Honda work on it at $80 per hour.and have a upholstery shop recover the seat(another hundred or so)

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby zamboni920 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:41 pm

Thank you Virgilmobile......2500 firm is actually the asking price. I am currently on my Goldwing number 4 (1200I ) and have never had any of them in the shop......I rather enjoy putzing around with them. I am not familiar with the 1500, but very eager to learn. Think a repair manual is on the horizon if I buy this. As for the seat, I might decide to shave some foam (short legs :-) ) and redo. I will try to go look closer at it this coming week. I have kept an eye on GL1500's for sale for a while, locally and elsewhere.....not seen any for less than 3500 yet.

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby virgilmobile » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:12 pm

Great you do it yourself.This is my first 1500.25 years of 1000,1100,1200's.
I was a bit intimidated by this one,it seemed a bit too much like a car.Part's jammed everywhere.
I've been messing with it for 4 months now.Just getting easier to get around the Tupperware.The belts are about the same to change,but the carbs are just horrible to pull off.
The first time it took me 3 hours just to get them out of the bike.
Braking system is the same.And when it's just right it pulls light a freight train.
It feels just a bit bulky at first but that goes away with the twist of the throttle.
And at 2500 for a running 1500? I'd be going to the bank monday.

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby zamboni920 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:03 pm

Been looking and looking for my next Goldwing. The above mentioned Goldwing was a no-go as the advertiser just fell off the planet. Seems all GL1500's , regardless of year , goes for $4000 and more.....above my budget. Just yesterday I found a 1988 advertised on Craigslist for $2500, and I just had to check it out. Needs some TLC and a few minor things, the major beeing a new windshield. Deciding I had been looking long enough, I offered $2000. Was on the road shortly after for a nice, albeit chilly, ride home, about 50 miles. Ran like a champ, except rough idle. Carb cleaning coming up in the near future. $2000 and riding it home.....Happy,happy!

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:34 pm

Rode it home.How great is that,huh?
I suspose the first thing your gonna do is flush the brake fluid and put on new timing belts,right?
Ya might try a bunch of polishing on the windshield and then a good coat of Pledge.It worked great on mine.
Post a couple of pictures too.
Let us know if you have any questions.I've spent 4 months of quality time on my 88. In my shop,and so has the Wing Admin on his.

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby zamboni920 » Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:35 am

This bike has been sitting for some time, although started regularly. Timing belts are a must. Brake flush....good idea. How about clutch flush/bleed? Also oil change, regular tune-up. Read a mention of a timing gear wheel update of some sort.....anyone know more? Need to check for bank angle sensor replacement, look for the X stamped into the frame. I suspect many dealers might have eliminated this extra step though. Read the replacement have the letters POM molded into the housing....will check. Polishing the windshield is useless, as it is not there :-) . Snapped off at the vent due to 2 feet of snow on the cover last winter. I do need to polish/replace windshield on my '84 Interstate though. Rain-X ? Pledge works, huh? Will try it. Ordered a Haynes manual.....never liked Clymer. A tank or two of fuel with SeaFoam might do the carbs....also some carbcleaner around vacuum hoses and intake manifolds while running to check for leaks. I hate to "fix" something if it is not broken, so trying the easiest steps first. All suggestions welcome.

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby virgilmobile » Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:35 am

No rain X.Pledge wax.Polish it out,looks good,bugs dont stick so well either.At least on the one you do have. :D
I usually don't fix it if it Ain't broke too,but I do some preventive maintainance when needed.It just turned out to be carbs,belts,all lubes,electrical,brakes ****including the clutch fluid**** several vacuum lines that were near collapsing.

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby Mag » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:13 am

I did the Rain-x on mine, and I still get bugs, and stuff stuck, should go to Pledge. Actually, I want to get one of those 1/2 shields with the extension....tinted onthe bottom, clear on top, only $160,which would be slick.

Keep working on it Zamboni, either you spend a lot of $$ for a clean working bike, or spend little and a lot of elbow grease for a good priced used. I have paint wear on my 88 (just picked it up last year for $5k, 44k miles, new tires, new shock, new rotors) and the only two things I found on it was a leaky pump and heal/toe shift that did not work right.

I figure a good deal over all, and from far away, it is a nice looking bike ;)

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby zamboni920 » Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:32 pm

Will try Pledge. Found a mousenest on top of airfilter. Cleaned.....idles like a champ now. Still more to go over. Reverse/headlight issue, posted in other topic.
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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby Mag » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:52 pm

Wow, you got the upgrade Mousenest.....I did not get that ;)

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby redial » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:20 am

I noticed you got the hybrid valk look - cool! In more ways than one.

Have a look for the dvd version of the repair manuals, you can always find what you want, and then print off the pages you need to save getting grease and dirt all over the paper manual.

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:05 am

redial wrote:Have a look for the dvd version of the repair manuals, you can always find what you want, and then print off the pages you need to save getting grease and dirt all over the paper manual.


Exactly what I do. I actually scanned my entire GL1500 manual (having a sheet-fed double-sided scanner at work that does 3 pages/second doesn't hurt) and when I need to have it as a reference, I print off the relevant pages, keeping my actual manual in good, non-greasy shape.

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby giturgun » Thu May 03, 2012 10:33 pm

Maby I need to check for a meese nest on mine . They built a nest overnight in the fuel fill box . I was riding it daily to work , so I was gone for approx 9 1/2 hours per day. Filled up on Monday and the nest was found on Thursday at the next fillup. Maby they done a number on my intake . It misses at idle since between the mouse nest and now. Hummmmm
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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby WingAdmin » Fri May 04, 2012 10:47 am

giturgun wrote:Maby I need to check for a meese nest on mine . They built a nest overnight in the fuel fill box . I was riding it daily to work , so I was gone for approx 9 1/2 hours per day. Filled up on Monday and the nest was found on Thursday at the next fillup. Maby they done a number on my intake . It misses at idle since between the mouse nest and now. Hummmmm
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Add a small screen to prevent that problem:

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See more about it here: How to replace your air filter

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby giturgun » Fri May 04, 2012 3:26 pm

Have that in the plan , gonna use Aluminum screening for a cover , thanks for the reminder though.
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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby WingAdmin » Fri May 04, 2012 3:43 pm

giturgun wrote:Have that in the plan , gonna use Aluminum screening for a cover , thanks for the reminder though.


Make sure the screening isn't too fine - you don't want to restrict the airflow at all. The 1/2" grid I used is great, it's too small for mice to fit through, but not so small that it restricts airflow.

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby zamboni920 » Fri May 04, 2012 7:45 pm

What a great idea! I should have done that when I was in there replacing airfilter recently.
Speaking of airfilter.....Mine had an aftermarket K&N flat, flexible rubber airfilter, when I bought it. I now replaced it with a Honda OEM filter. Anyone having pro's or con's between the two? I have not ridden enough, before or after, to notice any difference.

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby giturgun » Sat May 05, 2012 1:19 pm

Found my little miss problem. It was a vac. line on the left intake. I suspected it may be that . I just added a T in the line for checking the carb sync. I am going to run them and have easy access so the plastic don't have to be removed to check it. I put a new vac line plug on the t but the ones I got seem to split so I suspected that may have been the problem. Still am going to put the screen on the air intake snorkle . And the top of the engine hav insulation on it like the Fuel filler area did.
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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby WingAdmin » Mon May 07, 2012 10:17 am

zamboni920 wrote:What a great idea! I should have done that when I was in there replacing airfilter recently.
Speaking of airfilter.....Mine had an aftermarket K&N flat, flexible rubber airfilter, when I bought it. I now replaced it with a Honda OEM filter. Anyone having pro's or con's between the two? I have not ridden enough, before or after, to notice any difference.


The K&N does flow air quite a bit better, but I've read many independent (i.e. not published by K&N) tests that show it is pretty much the worst at filtration. I use OEM filters in my bikes - I'd like to have my engines last a long time. Have a look at http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/K-and-N-filters.htm

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby zamboni920 » Mon May 07, 2012 2:36 pm

Wing Admin.....Those numbers in the tests done are quite impressive. Me thinking me will be looking for AC Delco and/or OEM for any filters. It does make sense a higher airflow means less filtration....think they call that "quantum physics" ? K&N sounds cool simply because all the young'uns nowadays put that in their little mopeds (read: neons with 3 inch mufflers) .

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby WingAdmin » Mon May 07, 2012 2:40 pm

When it comes to filters of any kind, there are three available features:

Physically small
Good filtration
High air flow

You get to pick any two.

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby skier » Mon May 07, 2012 6:49 pm

I used K&Ns on my previous bike, which needed high air flow with the way I had it jetted. The K&Ns must be oiled to filter well, and K&N is happy to sell you a recharge kit.

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby Kiwi2 » Sat May 12, 2012 7:08 am

Wow a mouse nest how great is that ........ we will all be wanting one soon :lol: .

As far as cleaning the screen goes ........ try some silvo (liquid used for cleaning silver, brasso is a bit harsher) and rubbing it over the screen gently cleaning small sections at a time with a soft cloth. Take the screen off the bike and cleaning it while watching TV. When all cleaned wash it in warm soapy water, dry off with a clean tea towel (don't let the misses catch you), and then polish with lemon pledge.

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Re: Buying a 1989 GL1500

Postby zamboni920 » Sun May 13, 2012 8:02 pm

Well, it seems the problem is solved....although I won't feel sure until I've tested it for a few days. What I did was.....just about nothing. I was ready to dig into carburator vacuums, but before I got too far I figured I'll point some carb cleaner in direction of the carbs without removing more than the side covers and "carb covers"(?) . The idea was to see if there was any change in RPM's. No change was noticable regardless of wich parts I tried to (blindly) aim at.
As I was doing this, I decided to spray some around the Auto Shutoff Valve , just for the hell of it. I noticed immediately a hissing sound, and "popping" in the exhaust. " I am onto something" I thought. Closer inspection revealed that the small vacuum hose that connects to this valve, sucks air from a tiny hole at the bottom of the valve. This is generally a hidden, but dirty , area, and apparently the dirt also gets sucked in. I removed the mounting bracket(the tiny hole is behind it) and sprayed carb cleaner into the hole until it came out through the hose connector. Also a little into the hose itself to loosen any dirt that got that far. Very simple to do, and it cleared the idle and the starting issue perfectly.For now :D .
As I was working I decided to steal Wingadm's idea and put on the intake screen. Thanks Wingadm !!
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