fork brace --1500 wing


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fork brace --1500 wing

Postby goldwing2005 » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:24 pm



I need the four bolts that hold the fork brace to the fork on a 1989 goldwing 1500. Anybody know where i can find those. The bolts in this already are too short and i think they might come loose. Thanks guys



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Re: fork brace --1500 wing

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:47 pm

I would just go to a local hardware store or auto parts store and buy some longer replacements. They're nothing special, just regular metric hex-head bolts. Although thinking about their application, I might be tempted to purchase Grade 8 bolts.

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Re: fork brace --1500 wing

Postby Sempai » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:48 am

Correction...these 4 bolts are not very common. They are 7mm x 1.0, and, at least on my '94, they are button head bolts so they'll fit inside the chrome trim that attaches to the fender just over the brace. If you are installing some kind of additional brace, you'll need the 7x1.0x20mm, I believe, and you'll not find them at your local hardware stores. If you are just looking to replace your bolts, I have the factory originals from my '94 1500SE.
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Re: fork brace --1500 wing

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:55 am

Sempai wrote:Correction...these 4 bolts are not very common. They are 7mm x 1.0, and, at least on my '94, they are button head bolts so they'll fit inside the chrome trim that attaches to the fender just over the brace. If you are installing some kind of additional brace, you'll need the 7x1.0x20mm, I believe, and you'll not find them at your local hardware stores. If you are just looking to replace your bolts, I have the factory originals from my '94 1500SE.


Ah...that's not what is on my bike - it has four standard hex-head bolts - however, I have a Superbrace on my bike. Perhaps it comes with different bolts? I'm not sure, as I didn't put it on there.

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Re: fork brace --1500 wing

Postby Sempai » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:58 am

WingAdmin wrote:Ah...that's not what is on my bike - it has four standard hex-head bolts - however, I have a Superbrace on my bike. Perhaps it comes with different bolts? I'm not sure, as I didn't put it on there.

The SuperBrace normally comes with new, longer bolts. I know this cuz I bought a SuperBrace 5 years ago for my Wing and decided to wait til I needed front end work to install it. As luck would have it, a fork seal finally let go just last week and I began the rebuild process and also unpacked my brand new, still in the vacuum wrapped/sealed box, SuperBrace. When I got to the point of installing it, I learned that there were SUPPOSED to be 'new' bolts in the package, I shopped and shopped, to no avail. I called SuperBrace and now I'm waiting for the bolt set they are sending me ($12 and some change.)
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Re: fork brace --1500 wing

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:21 pm

You're 100% right - I had a look at the Cyclemax site, and in their picture, it shows the bolts that are on my 1500:


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Re: fork brace --1500 wing

Postby glassbebo » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:34 pm

I GOT THE SAME AS WA WITH THE LONGER BOLTS AND THE 2 STUDS, ABOUT 10 MINUTE JOB.

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Re: fork brace --1500 wing

Postby Ericson38 » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:07 pm

Question on the brace-did the 2000 model come with one (like my '83 standard) from the factory ? I think that brace design was carried through all the 1200s too, not sure why Honda dropped it on the 1500.

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Re: fork brace --1500 wing

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:44 am

Ericson38 wrote:Question on the brace-did the 2000 model come with one (like my '83 standard) from the factory ? I think that brace design was carried through all the 1200s too, not sure why Honda dropped it on the 1500.


The GL1500 did not come with a brace from the factory - why, I don't know. I've seen a couple people with so much front fork play that the chrome fork cover had a crack in it.

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Re: fork brace --1500 wing

Postby Ericson38 » Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:04 pm

After putting about 1000 miles on the GL1500 riding alone, a fork brace would not be required, since there is a thin stamped steel fork tie plate (fender stay) under the fender already, mounted to the mid point perches (good thing for us). Riding two up, I think it is more of a good to have, as sometimes the passenger doesn't know what the driver's next intention is, and the additional steering torque the driver may put into the bars to take a particular line in a curve is transmitted better to the front wheel with the additional tie-brace (Black Wing or Super Brace).

Since the goldwing is so well thought out in a couple of 100 areas, there has to be some rational for dropping that brace, which were fitted from the factory from 83-87 on the last 1100 and all 1200s.

I wonder if having the brace allows too much side loading of the front wheel bearings and steering head bearings, to the point where Honda thought they would require additional servicing or a shorter replacement interval if the fork brace were fitted. These woud be the two points at which the additional steering torque forces, being more effectively transmitted through the telescopic fork assy, would be present. I can't see how having the brace would in any way shorten the bushing/seal life of the front forks themselves, in fact it would seem that the additional bracing would lengthen the life of the slider assy. Forces have a way, once something is stiffened up to minimize work flex, of working on another part of an assy.

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Re: fork brace --1500 wing

Postby edbard » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:16 pm

Any idea on the Torque should be on the new fork bolts? I was installing new floorboards and ripped the head clean off. I am trying not to over torque the new fork brace.

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Re: fork brace --1500 wing

Postby Sempai » Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:31 am

Page 2-10 of the GL1500 service manual is the end of the toque values section. The final segment of this portion of specifications shows the torque values for all nonessential bolts/screw/nuts not referred to specifically throughout the manual.
Regarding the bolts that hold the fork brace in place, these bolts are quite the ODDBALL. As per the chart on page 2-10, 6mm bolts are torqued to 7ft-lbs and 8mm bolts torque to 16ft-lbs. The bolts for the brace that spans the gap from fork to fork (where the superbrace would go) are 7mm...using the self evident parameters outlined in the chart, I torqued mine to 12ft-lbs and have had no problems since doing it.

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